School me, briefly, on the Grateful Dead essential album or two.

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  1. TokyoPortrait

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    Hi.

    Title says it all, I guess.

    I've heard the live albums are best and in that vein Live / Dead (from 1969) or Europe '72 are two possibilities.

    Others say maybe America Beauty or Working Man's Dead.

    Maybe a compilation?

    Or, just give them a wide berth?

    What say ye? Remember, I'm only looking for one or at the most two.

    Thanks.

    Pax/
    Dean
     
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    Live albums for me...
     
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    I know you're not asking for the opinion of a non-expert, but I'll give it anyway. I sure did enjoy One From the Vault for a good while. Live, 1975.
     
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    No, that's great, thanks. Everything helps. I'm playing the preview game on the iTunes store, but there's just so much, it's overwhelming.
     
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    I happen to love studio and live albums

    Believe it or not, their first album- they are really young and hyper but very solid playing actually contains some of their interpretations of covers, that they would play live for many years- maybe even some today.
    I love American Beauty and Workingman's Dead as there is just great acoustic playing and vocals....
    The thing with live GD is they kind of have different sounds thru the 'ages' so you have to sample it all:
    Psychedelic/trippy early Dead,
    One drummer Dead in the early '70's where swinging country music is used as a format to improvise....
    The sound of the band with 2 drummers, and each of the keyboard players....
    I'd say get a live sampling of various years '69, '72, '77 '80's....
    And absorb it all!
     
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    If you don't like American Beauty or Workingman's, you probably will not like any of it. After a while people develop a favorite phase. Mine is '72 - '78.
     
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    The only one I heard a lot growing up was Workingman's Dead. And I also heard American Beauty a fair amount. These are different because they are more or less "unplugged" albums without a lot of psychedelic leanings or super long guitar solos with (cough) "interesting" note choices that you find on many live recordings. They are relatively safe. However I am just an average level fan of the GD.
     
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    Might get slammed for this but I only really listen to the live recordings. There are 100's of shows on Spotify. So far I've been into the "Dick's Pick's" from the 70's. Some say '77 was their best touring year. A more qualified Dead Head can probably chime in as I've just gotten into them recently
     
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    WD & AB are their masterpieces, IMO.
    It’s a commonly held belief.
    Great songs, great lyrics, great arrangements, wall to wall.
    The live stuff is great “mood” music, too.
    I find the live stuff very self indulgent.
    I prefer brevity and variety, personally.
     
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    The central crux of the music business is to record an album and then go out on tour to support it. Garcia once said that if that was reversed, they'd just stay on tour and then, once in a while, they might record an album for the fun of it.

    The Dead were at their best live, and their sound changed quite a bit over the years. I'd start with Europe 72. Then, flash forward to Dead Set (and it's twin, Reckoning, if you're into the acoustic stuff). If those live albums don't get you, give up. On the other hand, if they pique your interest, then there are TONS of live recordings to delve into and you'll start appreciating the twists and changes they do with your favorite songs night to night or year to year.
     
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    I'm still kind of old school CD buyer ( Lots of Dicks Picks, studio and their commercial live recordings) and though I always liked the Dead, I did not go apesh*t crazy about their music until after Jerry died- I never saw the Dead with him, thought I eventually would...such is life

    Now I play a lot of GD and acoustic Jerry stuff, and - educated from lots of 'concert tapes' on CD from my brother in law, who was a real Deadhead.
    A lot of great 'perfect imperfect' music out there if you like it!
     
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    Start at the beginning......The Golden Road to Unlimited Devotion
     
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    Europe 72 is probably the right place. Or Live Dead.
    But, if I had one release to last me a lifetime, it’d be Sunshine Daydream - Veneta, OR 8/27/72. I think it might be perfect.
     
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    Heh, I tried to teach "pique" to a coupe of people the other day, in both the sense of arouse interest and feel irritated. I think I taught them '...my interest was piqued by ~' or some-such. I don't think they believed me that it is a real word...
     
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    American Beauty is a classic, like several others have said. It really is beautiful, thoughtful, deep. Lots of powerful tracks on there.

    When you get right down to it, I’m not a Dead fan at all... the Allmans are my idea of what a jam band is all about.

    But American Beauty... the ABB never released an album that powerful.
     
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    my favorite
     
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    ...but everyone should own Workingman’s Dead and American Beauty.
     
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    Go live. I never had any Dreadful Great albums until Jerry died ; now I get them when I see them in thrift stores or music stores selling CDs. They were just such an experience live, both culturely and musically that the albums didn't t do it for me, but now they have to. I haven't t seen The Dead, Jerry d be missed to much. Altho if Phil was w them I would.

    Go to Internet Archives Digital Library, 10,000+ of free downloads

    Wake of the Flood was a good turning point album.
     
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    "Skull and Roses" (Other wise known as untitles or Skull F*)

    As well as Europe '72 and others mentioned.

    Here's a nice selection!
    https://www.mediafire.com/folder/y6o8xkzmdar9t/Grateful_Dead

    BTW Don't fall for the Barton Hall '77 as best ever.....Not even close! Wild ride from "Dancing in the Streets" a MUST hear though!


    Bertha is what did it for me! Amazing bass lines, funky rhythm and a killer break by Jerry! The quintessential quintet! Jerry, Bob, Phil, Bill, Pig!


     
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    They think it's "peaked"

    I like studio and live both. But if I could only choose one, it would live. On a great night, they were unlike anything else out there.
     
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