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Discussion in 'Bad Dog Cafe' started by blowtorch, Aug 28, 2018.
That changes the whole dynamic for me.
What would I do? I trained in kung fu for eight years, sparring a couple times a week. I know what I would do. Preferably a joint lock to establish pain compliance, total control without injury. If he's got his hands on me a joint lock should be easy.
I guess you already resolved that physical moment somehow. You aren't typing your post while that guy has his hands on your throat. So I guess your question is what to do afterward about a coworker who physically assaulted you.
Keep it simple. You can't work in an office with somebody that resolves a problem by assaulting you. If he can rationalize that behavior once, he could do it again.
The best outcome would be plenty of witnesses, and management having the guts to let him go.
This won't be a popular response.
Here's what I got. You like the guy. He's helped you out in the past. You had words and he put his hands on you. You didn't feel threatened in any way. He apologized. You don't want him fired.
I'd give him a mulligan. But that's just me. Don't kid yourself. If you report him to HR, he WILL be fired. That's the world we live in. I'm not saying that it's a good thing or a bad thing. But you can't report him and then be surprised when he's fired.
I see where you're coming from, but you'd need to be upfront by telling him he's lost you as a friend and that's that.
It might not be up to you to extend mercy. Regardless of what you think of him, he committed an offense that would result in termination in any current work place. Being physically aggressive is a sign of an unstable employee, which means he may do something violent to someone else tomorrow, possibly with a weapon.
NY statutes say we're not permitted to defend ourselves in any meaningful way, either, but that's beside the point.
Please don't spread bogus "self-defense" tactics. You might get somebody killed.
forget everything i said.
THIS is what you do.....
You literally suggested "shoot him" and you're concerned about the potential danger of my post????
Yeah i know it's weird. The reason I'm posting about it here is it's the only place I can readily discuss it at the moment. I'm at work now and it's on my mind a lot
had to look up third rail, to see what you'd meant...yeah i get that
Danger to whom? In my (unpopular) opinion, the criminal attacker should always bear the risk, not the victim.
You said a tap to the Adam's apple would end a fight. It will not. If somebody actually believed you, and tried that technique when some jackass attacked him... let's just say that things would not go as planned.
You could report to HR but it would be more satisfying to give him a beat down. If someone is threatening you and invading your personal space you have every right. I would not tolerate that behavior for a second.
Hey man, can you sell? Come work for me and kick him in the nadds.
Accept his apology and give him a copy of this book...
Decent jobs are a little harder to come by than back in Johnny Paycheck's day, I think
Since my job is no longer to be the one to keep the aggressor's attention on me in preference to the paying clientele...
1. Remove hand from throat. And that's all. No good comes from doing more.
2. Remove self from immediate area.
3. Here we branch decisions. If boss is around (which he is not at my current job), that's the first stop. If not, police is the first call, boss is the second. Only because I'm not likely to feel especially threatened. If I were, police is first call every time.
4. If boss was around, and aggressor is not removed from building, next call is police. Followed by HR and lawyer.
But understand, I could stop working today and be fine. Keeping my job is not a worry.
Culture thing doesn't mean much to me. If you're here, you follow the local law. Same as if I moved somewhere else.
every place ive ever worked you were allowed to defend yourself.
it is your right.
I've worked at more than one place where it would be a firing offense not to report him. If he's violent towards you, he's a threat to your coworkers, and therefore to the business.