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Safest way to handle aggressive tailgaters?

Discussion in 'Bad Dog Cafe' started by 1955, Jan 1, 2017.

  1. BigDaddyLH

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    You forgot machismo! I've noticed that when there is fresh snow on the road and most people slow down to account for this, the guys in jacked-up 4x4 pickups take it as a sign of masculinity not to slow down at all. I look in my rear-view mirror and there's no one there, then a few seconds later lights are blazing into my car and all I see in the rear-view mirror is the grille of a pickup.
     
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  2. Boomhauer

    Boomhauer Friend of Leo's

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    Regarding tailgating...They can't prove that I did or did not see that cat in the road that I braked hard to avoid! They were too close to my bumper!
     
  3. william tele

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    Once again you've proven to have an uncanny grasp on the psyche of us real men...real men with big hands and the barest minimum of liability coverage available....

    Thank you for putting it so succinctly!
     
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  4. 64Strat

    64Strat Friend of Leo's Vendor Member

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    Who's driving??? Tailgaters are at big football games! You got an aggressive tailgater in the parking lot?? you just give'em another brat and a beer. ;) Calms'em right down. :D
     
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  5. Frank'n'censed

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    Safest way to handle aggressive tailgaters?

    A tailgunner, silly.
     
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  6. unixfish

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    In the past, I would put my car (manual transmission) in 3rd gear on the highway, get on the gas, then show "brake lights" by lightly pressing the brake pedal. This way, I could maintain speed or speed up a bit and still show brake lights to the tailgater. Secondary streets may require 2nd gear depending on the speed limit. If this did not work, I would back off and let them by.

    Enter Toyota, and the unintentional acceleration BS the media hyped up. The "safety crowd" got involved, and pushed regulations and / or the manufacturers to make sure this never happens anymore.

    My newer cars, VWs, disable the accelerator when you tap the brakes, and it remains disabled for about 1/2 second after you release the brake (at speed at least). No more trail braking into a corner as you get on the fuel to reduce understeer; no more showing brake lights while you maintain speed or speed up. All because a few people did not realize the brake pedal was offset a bit and they were standing on the gas, not the brake.

    It's funny how a few ruin it for everyone.

    So now, I just ignore them unless they are getting really aggressive, at which point I will let off until they pass, then laugh when the catch the car in front of me and don't get any further.
     
  7. Mjark

    Mjark Doctor of Teleocity Silver Supporter

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    Sometimes in the afternoon driving home I go into a reverie where I slow down to around the speed limit and suddenly notice a State Trooper way too close. I hate that.
     
  8. TMMC

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    Drive slowly, smile a lot, and when they inevitably pass you give them a grumpy thumbs down. It's hilarious (to me). Either that, or get a bumper sticker that say, "Driver has excellent aim and always carries."
     
  9. boris bubbanov

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    IF you are getting tailgated quite often, in spite of the fact that normally there's something really messed up about the person tailgating you, you need to think about changing what you're doing.

    You can change your route, change the time of day or day of the week you're making the drive, change which lane you use, and/or change your pace. It isn't in your long term best interest to keep encountering these people and I would suggest finding ways of just not being the guy they tailgate.

    Sometimes being in the car that's viewed as being a "safety conscious car" and being the cleanest, newest car with its lights on first is not the right way to go. Lots of people IMO are looking for someone to follow so they can concentrate on that text or concentrate on being Mad at Mom or concentrate on whether to suggest that the girl they're dating get an abortion - whatever. You can strip these people off your bumper by turning into a driveway momentarily or by hitting an exit ramp with an easy return ramp. It only takes a few seconds. Never a bad idea to just stop and top off that fuel tank, provided the tailgater is staying on the main track.

    I used to have trouble driving sparkling new Saabs, with tailgaters but now the tailgater doesn't know what a Saab is and for all they know it is a throwaway car where the driver will check up so he can make an injury claim (to cover that morning's hard fall in the shower). This obviously doesn't apply to all tailgaters but driving a sparkling new Volvo or Mercedes with your lights all on is IMO an invitation for the deadest of the deadheads to glom onto you.
     
  10. boris bubbanov

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    They really should dismiss the crum bums who drive unmarked cars and try to "push" their quarry down the road so they can stop them and run their record. That's just low class; a scummy and unnecessary thing for cops to be seen doing. If the limit is 35 and I'm looking for someplace/someway to get a stupid tailgater off my bumper, that shouldn't justify a stop.

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    Oh, and to the officers out there, in units alongside the road. Drivers should be at liberty to move over and establish a full lane as we pass a stopped vehicle, even if in doing so the distances between vehicles is not 100% ideal. Don't accuse me of following too close when all I am doing is trying to make your job less treacherous. Surely these cops must notice that people do things differently when they see a cop. That's for your safety, Mr. Cop. Don't be trying to capitalize on it as that's not gentlemanly. Drivers could make your life truly miserable - don't give them an excuse to do so.

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    You want me to be grateful that you never write me up? Why? You're just stopping people for no real reason and society does not IMO approve.
     
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  11. dallasblues

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    I like to pull some kind of Steve McQueen maneuver. Maybe pull the emergency brake causing a 180 degree skid with my finger out my window. Eye contact is a must.
     
  12. william tele

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    Borris, I always enjoy your detailed posts. Lot's of insight in them. Especially the part about people targeting oddball cars to tailgate.

    As a serial member of OASIS, (Oddball Auto Specific Intimidation Specialists) I always homed in on the Saabs and Volvos. It's not that they're not very good cars...it's just that they have unnerving names.

    That's all behind me now...for the most part.

    But let me get behind a vintage Citroen...oh, BABY! I'll nudge that booty from sea to shining sea!
     
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  13. Boomhauer

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    Low-hanging fruit, at least IMO. Traffic by us is so bad that the local radio shows have taken notice and put out the warning to cool yer jets and don't tailgate; there have been Facebook and Twitter threads about how poor the drivers have become around here. And yet, the local constabulary does nothing about it. My wife and I have been pulled over a total of 3 times in the past year, and all three times, we were obeying the speed limit and driving respectably.
     
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    2010 Georgia Code
    TITLE 40 - MOTOR VEHICLES AND TRAFFIC
    CHAPTER 8 - EQUIPMENT AND INSPECTION OF MOTOR VEHICLES
    ARTICLE 1 - EQUIPMENT GENERALLY
    PART 2 - LIGHTING EQUIPMENT
    § 40-8-29 - Spotlights, foglights, and auxiliary lights permitted
    O.C.G.A. 40-8-29 (2010)
    40-8-29. Spotlights, foglights, and auxiliary lights permitted


    (a) Any motor vehicle may be equipped with not to exceed one spotlight, and no lighted spotlight shall be aimed and used upon any approaching vehicle. It shall be unlawful for any person except law enforcement officers and persons licensed under Chapter 38 of Title 43 to operate a spotlight from any moving vehicle on any highway or public roadway.

    (b) Any motor vehicle may be equipped with not to exceed two foglights mounted on the front at a height not less than 12 inches nor more than 30 inches above the level surface upon which the vehicle stands and so aimed that when the vehicle is not loaded none of the high intensity portion of the light to the left of the center of the vehicle shall at a distance of 25 feet ahead project higher than a level of four inches below the level of the center of the light from which it comes.

    (c) Any motor vehicle may be equipped with not to exceed one auxiliary passing light mounted on the front at a height not less than 24 inches nor more than 42 inches above the level surface upon which the vehicle stands, and every such auxiliary passing light shall meet the requirements and limitations set forth in this article.

    (d) Any motor vehicle may be equipped with not to exceed one auxiliary driving light mounted on the front at a height not less than 16 inches nor more than 42 inches above the level surface upon which the vehicle stands, and every such auxiliary driving light shall meet the requirements and limitations set forth in this article.
     
  15. Frank'n'censed

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    A choice bumper sticker can work in a pinch...

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    There's a braille version for the blindsiders.
     
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    In theory, yes. In most applications, yes. For the most part, yes.

    I tend to pull into the left lane on the highway, and go just a bit faster than traffic - not a lot faster, but just a bit. If traffic is moving at 65, I am going 68 to 70 if conditions permit. I also prefer a three second gap to the car in front of me, which often invites someone to cut in. This is another issue...

    There are still others who want to go 10 or 15 mph faster than traffic. If I am in a break in traffic, I will pull over and let them by. If I am 2 seconds behind the car in front of me and there is a line of cars in front of them, there is no point. This is where that impatient SUV will ride my tail like they are trying to give me an enema. I just ignore them, or show them the occasional brake lights. And it's always an SUV; I can guarantee my VW can stop a lot faster than they can, and yet they follow so close I cannot see their license plate. Just plain idiots. When traffic clears or the guy in front of me switches lanes to get off, I will let them by - but I won't go out of my way or put myself in danger pulling into another lane because they are on my tail.

    Boris - I know this is not what you meant - I'm just sayin'.
     
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    Driving home from work one day (at speed limit) I looked in my rear view mirror to see a big white manly pickup a couple of inches from my rear bumper. After about a minute the guy just couldn't stand it anymore and passed me on a double yellow blind curve. Then the cop in the unmarked unit behind him pulled him over on up the road.
     
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    This is my method of choice. It seems to be effective about 90% of the time.
     
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    On my pickup topper's rack I mounted halogen tractor lights facing backwards, for, you know, backing the boat. Once in a while I accidentally hit the switch, coincidentally it's always when someone's riding my ass.
     
  20. BigDaddyLH

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    Ah, talking bout nasty things we'd do to tailgaters!

    But maybe it's time for a New Year's Resolution? Don't be That Guy? Don't succumb to toxic masculinity?
     
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