Rosewood is going back !!! Yay

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    Today, CITES (Convention on International Trade in Endangered Species of Wild Fauna and Flora) issued an official notification stating that the effective date for the musical instrument exemption from the dalbergia permitting requirement is November 26, 2019. The exception applies to all species of dalbergia except Brazilian rosewood, which remains on CITES Appendix I.


    Can't wait, i do not like look of pau ferro so far. Indian laurer is okay but it isnt as good quality as pau ferro or rosewood
     
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    Not an event for rejoicing. Save the rain forest.

    Go all maple, go local. All maple necks are more tuning stable through temperature and humidity changes. Mix different woods and necks bend around.

    You can dye wood to be black if you need it. Here is a Gibson from a few years ago. There is another version in a rainbow of colors.

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    I know one of the "lobbyists" that was in Europe working on this. He's a PRS employee.
     
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    Why are you celebrating the chance to contribute to deforestation and species extinction for purely cosmetic reasons?
     
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    That SG is amazing!

    My tendency is to prefer guitars that don't have rosewood or anything exotic.

    Not really a big deal for electric guitars.. Teles, Strats, etc.. are great with maple necks and the bodies are typically not from anything endangered.

    But if/when I get my dream acoustic it's going to be non-traditional wood I think to avoid having Rosewood.

    That's just me. Neither the feel of a rosewood fingerboard nor the tone of rosewood in an acoustic really move me a lot.
     
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    How much rosewood ends up in musical instruments versus in furniture?

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    I guess every tree, of every species, cut down contributes to deforestation on some level. The consumption of rosewood for musical instruments is minuscule compared to the consumption by the Asian furniture industry. You should direct your concerns to that industry if you want to save the forests.

    https://e360.yale.edu/features/the-rosewood-trade-the-illicit-trail-from-forest-to-furniture
     
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    I think that is the point of the reversal is that not that much Rosewood is actually used in Guitar Building ( in comparison with other uses of RW, like furniture), however why the hell now that we're getting used to its absence go back?
    Let's save that species.
    I have a Santos body guitar that looks like Rosewood is not Rosewood and I'm very happy with that
     
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    I'd be willing to give roasted maple or Richlite a try.
     
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    So many great woods to use. Let the Rosewood go for cripes sake.
     
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    Thanks for that link..............very informative. As a frequent visitor to China with friends there, I have seen stores that sell Teak hand made furniture as well in huge quantities, and often wondered when the supply would run out.

    Happily most of my friends there live basically the same as we do in the west and regard the extravagance of the "old style" prestige of having masses of impressive hand carved furniture as belonging to a distant era.

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    I prefer maple necks on my guitar.


    Having said that the amount of rosewood used on musical instruments is ttiny. - maybe two trees a year.

    This is not to defend deforestation rather to look at the costs.


    I think too this is more to do with taking a guitar made in the 1970s (say) through customs without having to carry documentation





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    I like my two Fenders with Pau Ferro boards.

    However, those dark AAA Rosewood fretboards on Custom Shop Teles are magical to me.

    I would be open to buying a used CS Tele with one of those dark rosewood boards one day.
     
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    Torrified Maple on this one I believe. 2014 Gibson 339 Studio

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    It's time for a maple neck.
    That'll cut down the (many) options for my next guitar.
    No humbuckers. That's another one.
    Single cutaway.
    One volume; one tone. I'm getting there.
    Nothing new - there are enough guitars out there already.
    Save the planet.
     
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    Maple neck. Single cutaway. One volume one tone. No humbucker.

    I think fender makes an obscure model with all of those - the Tele pasta? Something ... ;)


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    Yes right this is an approach you can take: "My fetish for rosewood necks is not the REAL problem, the real problem is China." And of course it's true that the demand for furniture is far greater than the demand for guitars. And hey yes thanks for the suggestions, but I'm not buying rosewood furniture either.

    If you start building guitars, as I have, you start to notice how often wood is being marketed to you as extra valuable because it's rare, the supply is dwindling, it's hard to find. Why in the word should I contribute to that? Especially for purely cosmetic reasons.

    And of course, yes, every tree cut down is a tree not growing, but if the choice is using maple, which grows in my front yard in abundance, or rosewood which is rapidly vansihing, well, it seems pretty straightforward. Should maple become endangered, I'll look for alternatives.

    Richlite make a great fretboard, I can say from extensive experience
     
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    Nah!
    Already got one of those.
     
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    Brazilian Rosewood is not a rain forest tree . It is a coastal plain tree . EIR can and is grown far from rain forests .
     
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