Reverse headstocks are a pain

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  1. blowtorch

    blowtorch Telefied Ad Free Member

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    I was thinking about this while looking at the snazzy new Charvel "teles", which happen to have reverse headstocks.
    Those types of headstocks look cool, without a doubt (because Jimi, obviously)

    But the machine heads are harder to reach.

    Functionality fail, and probably yet another example of "just because (X) made it look cool, doesn't mean it's a good idea for everyone"
     
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    A visual and ergonomic fail for me, I'm afraid. :eek:
     
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    I don't see why they'd be a pain. 3-a-side headstocks aren't a pain, so 6 on the "wrong" side isn't much different. But they do look wonky.
     
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    Upside down headstock.......Yuk !!
     
  5. blowtorch

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    In theory I agree with you.
    In practice though, I find the extra reach under the neck, to have to get at the low strings' tuners to be quite awkward
     
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    Steinberger gearless tuners?

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    Some are clumsier than others, that is for sure.

    I loved my Chapman tele-style guitar, but the reverse headstock tuning felt awkward to my wrist.

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    Now, this wonky beast, on the other hand, is pretty comfortable to tune.
    Can't say why that is.
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    That's a happy lookin' headstock...
     
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    But “looks cool” is pretty important.
     
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    It is :cool:
    But regular/traditional headstocks do not suffer from not looking cool (unlike, say, using a music stand onstage)
     
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    I found reverse headstocks change which strings have the most sustain. Longer string runs, like a traditional Strat high-e stretch more and have an opportunity to lose energy to friction under the string tree and over the nut as it vibrates, tugging on that extra length. Put the high-e in a reverse Strat headstock and it can barely stretch at all and so friction is a non-issue to the note sustaining. Thus, Hendrix's reversed headstocks gave him more sustain on the high notes just because he had to scrounge for guitars and used what he could find to play.

    3+3 guitars have different strings that sustain from most 6-on-a-side styles -- which is probably the real reason players go back and forth with each other about which guitar, 'bolt on' or 'set neck' sustains the longest -- each player uses different strings more often when trying to sustain notes.

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    It takes me too long to tune those reverse headstock guitars.
    I just don't have the reach.
     
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    I have a Washburn N1 (the cheapest Nuno model at the time) with a reverse headstock, and I never ever think about it when tuning. It's not really an inconvenience for me, it's just kind of there. Besides, if I am spending that much time tuning, there might be something more serious wrong than what side of the head the tuners are on.
     
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    Dr, cancel my Prescription!
     
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    A reverse headstock changes the tension. The shorter high E is looser while the low E is tightened up. Hendrix played those right-handed Strats because lefties are not as plentiful...so he restring them and ended up with a fortuitous stroke of,luck. This is wh6 he was able to run 10-38 strings.....looser highs and tighter lows.
    I prefer a reverse headstock.
     
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    On a related note I found that after I got married it became harder to rock anything with an upturned headstock.
     
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    I don’t find them any different than the treble side of a 3+3 headstock. Maybe it’s because I’ve spent as much or more time playing acoustics as I have electrics, but I’ve never had an issue with them. It’s a common complaint, though.
     
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    Haha. True about the stands.
     
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    Never had a reverse headstocks guitar and dont think I will ever have one.
    As they say 'not my cup of tea'. ;)
     
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    I never picked one up ... same with any D'Angelico. Can't get past the look of the headstock.
     
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