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Reshaping a Warmoth boatneck to a Jimmie Vaughn profile, and finishing a fun project.

Discussion in 'Tele-Technical' started by RodeoTex, Apr 7, 2021.

  1. RodeoTex

    RodeoTex Doctor of Teleocity

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    I never had spec'ed and ordered a quality neck before.
    My specs would have been for a 24.75" scale length.
    7.25 to 9.5" compound radius.
    Back profile to match my Jimmie Vaughn Strat.
    Spike at Warmoth burst my bubble a little:

    "Sorry, we don't do that compound radius because we found that there wasn't all that much difference."

    "We don't do a specific Jimmie Vaughn profile, but we've got a boatneck. It's pretty chunky though."
    Me: "ok, give me that one, I'll reshape it myself. Yes I know it voids the warranty."

    He wasn't kidding. The neck measured .98 at the 1st, 12th and pretty much everywhere else.
    The "keel" of this boat ran from the heel all the way to the base of the headstock.
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    This is really hard to photograph so please excuse.

    I measured my JV Strata at .904 1st fret, .936 at the 12th.
    So I just flat spotted the new neck at those measurrments.
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    With a center line drawn on it wasn't hard to push the shoulders in to form a soft, but definite V shape. Blending all in with sandpaper and making regular stops to check for feel and symmetry.

    Actually I like it a lot more than my JV, which is barely noticable as a V shape.
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    Again, please excuse the photos. It's not easy to show.
    This profile is definitely what I'll be looking for on future builds.
     
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  2. RodeoTex

    RodeoTex Doctor of Teleocity

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    This is a guitar I started a few weeks ago just to use up and test some parts.
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    This is a Dimarzio Twang King and the fat saddles are the ones that were being sold here a few months ago.
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    You are FEARLESS!

    I once had a guy bring me a neck he was reshaping to ask what that silver thing in the wood was (truss rod).

    Yeah, he sanded way too much wood off the back.


    I really like the rustic TX flag design/inlay you've done there. NICE work!
     
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    RodeoTex Doctor of Teleocity

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    My son did some decoration around the edges. Kinda cute.
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    Peegoo Poster Extraordinaire

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    LIKE!
     
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    _MementoMori_ Tele-Holic

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    Beautiful Tele. You're very talented.

    And I have a boatneck profile neck on the way from Warmoth right now. Totally selected on description alone... I hope I like it!
     
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    I did the SAME thing to a Warmoth boatneck!
     
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    Nice work. I thought I was being brave sanding the finish off my EJ Strat neck (I realize that this probably cuts my resale way down).
     
  9. PARCO

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    This is a great approach. Get a neck that is a little thicker than what you want and then sand it down until you're happy with it. You now have a neck that exactly the way you want it to be.
     
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    old wrench Friend of Leo's

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    I bought one of the Warmoth "boatneck" profile necks myself.

    It was a "showcase" neck - roasted maple, ziricote fretboard, side adjust truss rod.

    Nice, well made neck :).

    But the boatneck profile? Horrible, the most un-comfortable neck I've ever played on.

    It's not the thickness, it's the hard V shape.

    I re-profiled mine too ;).


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    RomanS Poster Extraordinaire

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    If you think the Warmoth is a hard V, better never try any pre-war acoustics, or a Waterloo, or a Loar archtop.
    The Boatneck profile is a rather soft V that morphs into a C at the upper end...
    Personally, I can't decide whether I lke the Fatback or the Boatneck better, my favorite profiles...
     
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    It's a funny thing - I like a full neck like the AllParts "fat" profile or the early '50's Les Paul profile, and the necks I build are usually pretty hefty C/D profiles right at .990 to a full inch thick.

    But, the Warmoth boatneck profile just feels terrible to me, especially down at the cowboy end, which is where I re-worked mine. From about the 12th fret and up it's OK for me.

    And for me, the neck makes or breaks a guitar.

    If the neck feels comfortable, I'll probably get along with the rest of the guitar regardless of the type of construction.

    I've never played a real pre-war acoustic or Loar or Waterloo.

    Maybe a Waterloo would be my Waterloo :).


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    Yeah, definitely a matter of personal preference - just wanted to point out that the Boatneck is not a "hard" V, but rather soft as far as V necks are concerned. It does have a "spine" from the nut to about the 7th or 8th fret, but it doesn't have the straight sides of a hard V, but curved/rounded ones...

    If you look at this pic, it starts out as the "medium V" in the diagram, turns into the "soft V" around the 7th fret, and into a C even farther up the neck:

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    Here is Warmoth's diagram:

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    Damn. Now I'm singing the ABBA song........
     
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    I had really considered putting in one of my last two original gold foil pickups.

    At this point I don't want to bother with routing a recess for the pickup or dealing with putting in a switch.
    It would look cool though.
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    RodeoTex Doctor of Teleocity

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    In is natural habitat IMG_20210410_132033435.jpg

    This is all tongue-in-cheek of course, but this really is a great player. I can't wait for the swelling in my hands to go down so I can actually play it.
    Thanks for watching.
     
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    Way to go! That's great looking! I'm glad you took things into your own hands, and that it turned out well. My favorite guitar neck is one that I shaped in similar fashion. I got an Allparts TMO-FAT and shaped it using one of the Stew Mac Tele templates and my own hands and eyes, til I got it where I wanted it.
     
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