REgarding Herzog and Kinski: Nosferatu: an Existential Dilemma

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  1. ping-ping-clicka

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    Nasforatu tells the story of an undead creature that has grown weary of his endlessly repetitive existence , the same predictable event over and over, night after night year after year century after century.
    The same peasant incapable of understanding the soul of a hunter (Dracula).
    In the isolated Carpathian mountains life goes on as it has for centuries, missing the advancement of european civilization. No art ,theatre modern music,opera,symphonies modern literature giant cities of light, Rome, Paris , London, Bucharest, Viena, Prague, Florence . Centers of commerce and modern industry ,the printing press, photograph ,medicine.
    Dracula knows something of this as he in different forms ,and through reading has learned of the great change and most of all fresh blood from the new, less ancient species of humans, to quicken and envigorate, returning him to his former greatness and beyond.
    Thisis why he has the Existential blues
    lets look at his options and personal considerations
    • Impotence of Reason. Passion and emotion.
    • Alienation or Estrangement from. ...
    • Despair or Anxiety. ...
    • Nothingness or Death. ...
    • Awful Freedom. ...
    • The Absurd. ...

    • Existence precedes essence.
    • Life is absurd.
    • Alienation.
    • Nothingness and Death.
    • Fear, Dread, Anxiety.
    • Freedom.
    • Existential anguish or Angst (or dread, abandonment, anxiety, etc) generally refers to the negative feelings which arise from the experience of human freedom and responsibility. ... In existentialism, you are defined by your actions (existence precedes essence).
    Dracula is moving into action that will free him through his making choice and taking action.
     
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  2. Deeve

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    Didn't Dracula use a trem-block? Or was that Vlad the impala; I get those two mixed up all the time. . .

    jk
     
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    well, it's been well-documented that Dracula has no wang bar...
     
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    Yep. Must suck being a vampire...

    Might watch the 1922 original again today.. its on Amazon Prime. Not got a copy of the Herzog version.
     
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    You may be overthinking this...
     
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    ^^^ Just a tad

    See the making of the soundtrack to the film Grizzly Man. Very illuminating as to what Herzog knows - and doesn’t know.

    To the OP : same basic idea/themes but executed differently - and shot in Detroit by Jarmusch.

     
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    Replace Nosferatu with old man yelling at clouds and your cumbersome hypotheses makes more sense.

    Does it really take multiple lifetimes to see that defining ourselves by our actions cannot eliminate our core absurdity?
     
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    I like the Murnau version better than Herzog's. But most Vampire films are pretty good, even Fright Night and Buffy (the movie, not the TV series).

    Herzog was awesome with "Aguirre, The Wrath Of God", again with Kinski. I need to watch that again.
     
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    Masterpiece, Jarmusch rules....
     
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    I think it'd be cool if Vampires were changed to...

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    Werner Herzog reviews Trader Joe's on Yelp...


    Herzog has heard this and liked it.
     
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    As Soren Kierkegaard and Satre would point out, Dracula is solely responsible for giving meaning to his own life.
     
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    Dracula is moving into action that will free him through his making choice and taking action.

    I think he is in fact moved into the oregon that will elevate him by making us all jealous of his super expensive cool stuff. ...

    He has the greatest mancave ever, and is showing off pictures of his obvious wealth right here on the internets. ...

    I wonder where his casket is, and I wonder what guitar he has inside of it with him when he sleeps the days away, I bet not his cheapest one. ...

    Dread Emptiness not elevated by material gain. ...

    "thirsty and miserable always wanting more. ..."


    https://www.tdpri.com/threads/hello-from-oregon-usa.992546/
     
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    They come in through the window and suck your tonez?
     
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    I guess Dracula is pretty much a Lone Wolf kind of character?
     
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    Trying to think of something to say that makes me look like an intellectual...nothing coming to mind.
     
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    those are mapires...
     
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    He should join a band with whathisname, you know that other guy with the bolt on neck and terrible scars allover.
    he was a Tele guy.

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    Redd's a Tele guy and a monster, of a sort. . .
     
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