recommend me a neo 12" speaker!

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  1. Jupiter

    Jupiter Telefied Silver Supporter

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    I recently bought a Quilter 101 mini, and now I'm trying to shrink my speaker cabinet to match. I currently have a Celestion G12H 30 in a pretty big semi-open pine box. I like that speaker, but I don't LOVE it, so I'm thinking about building a more compact cab with a lighter speaker.

    Ideally, my new speaker would be
    • 12"
    • 100W or better
    • Heavenly sound
    • As efficient as the G12H
    • 15 grams
    • 30 dollars
    But I'm willing to compromise a bit on the last three points. :D and actually, I don't think I'm super picky about the third point either...

    What I want is a 100+ watt neodymium 12" that is on the inexpensive side. It'll also have to be a fairly common make, so I can get it in Japan.

    If it helps, I usually play pretty low-gain, cleanish. In the past, I was getting some grind just from cranking up my little 6-watt VHT, but I hardly ever go past classic rock/Rolling Stones territory, gain-wise. I have a ZOOM MFX pedal that's going to be most of my amp sound going forward (the Quilter will likely be set VERY clean), so clean and clear will be fine.

    I am also considering just buying the DVMark Neoclassic 112 Small, to get things done and dusted. I can get one of those for about four hundred bucks. If I build my own cab, I'll prolly use the same dimensions as that one.

    So hit me with some model numbers!

    Tx
     
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    Take a look at the DV Mark Jazz 0208 as well...a couple of us use one with a Tone Block 201 (I run it paired with a 1x12 cab 300w).

    I have two 1x12 cabinets with neo speakers...cannot speak to how heavenly they are (also, they are new and no where near broken in), but they sound good to me:

    ---Celestion Orange Label BN12-300S (300w) 8ohm (this is the one used in the Quilter Tone Dock cab)
    ---Eminence Lil' Texas 125w 8ohm
     
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  4. Jupiter

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    thanks. Yeah, these look pretty good. They are at the very upper end of what I'm willing to spend (and beyond the upper end of what I'm HOPING to spend...).
     
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    They are a bit pricey. I purchased my speakers from a Reverb seller...the Lil' Texas for $99 new...and the BN12-300S for $139 new.


    Btw, the DV Mark Jazz 208 is on sale at MF for $250 right now.
     
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    Lil Texas is probably your best bet for what you are looking for and they are cheap relative to other options.
     
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    Eminence Legend EM12N. It is a Neo version of their EM12 Electrovoice copy. 200W rating. I've had one for about a month in my Blues Jr. and it makes the little amp sound much bigger than it is.
     
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    I've used the Tonkerlite in a Fromel-modded Fender Hot Rod Deluxe.

    It's got a good spread of tone, made the amp sound really really good, with loads of bottom end, but the highs were just a little too ice-picky for my tastes. Could have been the amp, and probably could have done with more speaker break-in.

    It's definitely a speaker I am re-considering for my 6G3 clone that will be arriving soon.
     
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    The only neo speaker I have is the Eminence Lil Texas and I have no complaints. I bought it to use with my Mark DV Little 250 head.
     
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    Then I got bad news, because @Askwhy is breaking down the truth here:

    And it retails for $160.

    Weber currently offers one neo-mag speaker (based on my quick scan of their site). It's modeled after the 15" JBL D-130/F. And it retails for $250.

    Here's the neo version of the Celestion G12:

    https://www.sweetwater.com/store/de...lestion-g12-neo-creamback-guitar-speaker-8ohm

    And it retails for $160

    I'm definitely guilty of assigning no value to my own time, but I'm confident in your ability to glue up a pine box for less than $250 of time and materials. I also understand the value of buying the completed thing, because the goal (I think?) is playing music, not homebrew cabinetry, but...it's a pine box. World's first DPP speaker cabinet?

    Alternatively, just stalk used listings until the thing you want (or a reasonable facsimile) turns up.
     
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    I would put in a vote for a Celestion BN12-300s. That is the speaker that is in the Quilter MicroPro 12 HD. I have one and it sounds great! They are $150 but well worth the price I think. Celestion Classic Lead 80 punch with a 300 watt rating.
     
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    8” speakers?? I might not be ready for that yet...

    Hmm, seems so. It’s not beyond reach, but will require a couple months to save up.

    A bit rich for my blood...

    Actually, the first real bit of guitar DIY-etry I ever posted about here was a speaker cabinet! Building stuff like this is definitely a hobby, so I don’t factor in my time either, but if I make another cab, I’ll still have to get parts, maybe shipped from the States if I can’t source them here (I ordered a bunch of stuff from mojotone last time, but maybe I’m a better shopper now), and I’m confident I’ll end up not saving a whole lot of money... The good part is that building something usually spreads out the expenditures over time, whereas a DVMark cab would mean dropping a chunk of cash at once. I could strip the hardware from my first cab, but I’m not emotionally prepared to let go of that cab yet. Which is a problem, though: it’s kinda big...

    Used stuff in Japan tends to be pretty nice—Japanese consumers are sticklers for condition—but it adds a bit of complexity to the transaction.
     
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    I run a few quilters and light cabs.
    Cabs I’m very happy with...
    1. the celestion creamback neo 12” in a Vox night train cab.
    2. dv Mark 1x12 cab with stock neo speaker....this is as lightweight and powerful as you’ll get.
     
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    ...another +1 for the Lil Texas.
     
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    hmm, yeah but it’s about 150 bucks here...

    yeah, that dvmark is a strong contender, if I end up not building one like it. Can I ask: what is the box made of?
     
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    If you can find a non "vintage? Century neo by Celestion.
    A couple of vox amps had them. I had one.
    Closest thing to a big EV. They do not make anymore.
     
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    I have a Lil' Texas paired with a WGS G12C in a 2x12. Sounds great. The Lil' Texas on it's own is a bit bright, but not bad and can usually be tamed with eq. They also require a bit of break in (I bought mine new).
     
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    My Neo setup for my Quilter 201. Both are excellent.
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    LiL Texas is a great speaker
     
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