Real or dud?

Discussion in 'Other T-Types and Partscasters' started by Bluetelecaster, Oct 14, 2019.

  1. Bluetelecaster

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    Found this LP , going to look at it this week. Seller says he believes it is a clone or Epiphone. It has Gibson on the headstock with LP signature. Looks pretty authentic to me but wudda I know. What say you? Screenshot_20191011-163539.png Screenshot_20191011-163556.png
     
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    Need better photos.
     
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    Careful. I once made an SG for a customer, exact colours, small pickguard and HE went and bought a Gibson logo off Ebay. So, I made him sign a waiver , mostly for a copy to protect myself.
    Check the serial number and have Gibson trace it.
    Unfortunately your photos don't show the headstock. Also the plate over the end of the truss rod should have only TWO screws if it is a Gibson, not three.
    I notice from the shape of the headstock (rear) that it does not have the indentation or " open Book" at the tip of headstock. Tuners look a bit Hmmnn also.
     
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    Thanks for the info. Seller isn't trying to pass it off as a Gibson, I just thought I might have found a killer deal
     
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    Yup, not good enough pics, but with that finish, you should be able to determine if there is a scarf joint near the headstock.
     
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    Those are all long gone.
     
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    A close up of the back of the headstock would be helpful.
     
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    Those are the only pics I have right now.
     
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    This alone is enough to say it isnt the real deal
     
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    probably just a chibson piece of crap
     
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    Yeah its a chibson , depends what they want for it and how it plays , can buy them new off ebay for under £250 . Mixed quality some are very close to real thing some are awful , wrong neck angle , single coils that look like humbuckers, piece of metal instead of a working truss rod , check to see if truss rod works if not its fire wood despite how nice it looks.
    How much is it?
     
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    If it has a metric bridge on it, it's not a Gibson. Most knock-offs have Epiphone metric bridges on them, and they are easy to spot. The bridge posts are larger diameter than Gibson bridge posts, and will (almost always), have screwdriver slots in them, (Gibson's don't). I couldn't Imagine anyone putting a metric bridge on a Gibson, (but who knows?)...anyway, that's the easiest tell that it's a knockoff, but still, that doesn't mean you might not be getting a good deal if the price is right!
     
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    Wouldn't touch it.
     
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    If it's cheap enough and you like it, it may be a good deal. Knock offs aren't really worth anything so it all depends on how it feels and sounds.
     
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    It looks like one of the early Dillion lp copies. They are Korean with a photo flame top but do have all the correct curves and neck angles etc. I bought one for $200 with a hard shell and once I threw some decent parts i had lying around on it, it wasnt a bad guitar. Helps to know ahead of time obviously.
     
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    I believe I'll pass on this one now after many of the helpful comments proved to be spot on. Thanks everyone for the guidance.
     
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    If it doesn't have an open-book headstock, it's not a counterfeit Gibson (= crap) and it could be a pretty good guitar.
     
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    Gibson has been real good about working with me when it comes to checking on the authenticity and specs of their guitars.

    I've checked with Gibson on 7 or 8 different Les Pauls that passed through my hands. Most of them were R-9's from the '90s and early 2000s.

    All that Gibson wanted was a serial number and a picture of the guitar, and if it's truly their product, they'll tell you when it made and what it's original configuration was.

    None of them were '59 bursts ;), but I did have a '56 Gold-top for awhile :).



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    Those pictures are useless....but...there are two screws in the truss rod cover. There are also more than one line of numbers/letters on the back of the headstock. Whether or not there is a ‘open book’ thing going on is something I can’t tell because the pic is so out of focus. Better pics might be of use????
     
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