(Re)-Naming genres decades after the bands peak

ReverendRevolver

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I was reading an article (probably on Loudwire) last night.
It was a list of top X metal core albums from the 90s to early 00s.
I was reading it because some OK metal core bands came through central Ohio back when I was in high-school, wondered if they made the list.
Thing is, metalcore is a sub-genre of hardcore, which itself is technically post-hardcore. It's far from the only subgenre, and was the second or third most popular genre of hardcore in Central Ohio during the early to middle 00s.

So I scroll over the list and it's not just metal core. It's got metalcore, and general hardcore (which is technically post hardcore, but back then we called that badbrains and minor threat hardcore punk).
It's got Poison the Well's Opposite of December as #2. Poison the Well is, to me, THE 00s hardcore band. Even though they were considered Screamo as well. Now other bands, maybe some metal core leanings, but I didn't consider As I Lay Dying metal core then either, and certainly not Avenged sevenfold (who were metal is with hardcore leanings in some songs).

But what do I know. I was there, at the shows, with patches on my jacket, waiting for breakdowns in every song, getting caught by people's fists in the pit....
But I don't write articles, so I guess it's not called what it used to be. When it was happening.

Got me thinking, is this a recent thing?

Bear with me, because what Chuck Berry was playing was called rock n roll instead of just blues while he was "happening".
Nirvana and pear jam got called Grunge while they were "happening".

But, when did Arena rock get called that?
When did motown get lumped together?
Calling Classic Rock thar name was happening by the 90s at least, but I recall radio stations referring to Elvis as "oldies" then too.

It makes sense with yacht rock to be named that later. Or country to get carved out by decade because Shania Twain isn't Conway Twitty, who isn't Steve Earl, who himself isn't Racal Flatts.

But why the heck rename something a decade+ later as another genre? People do it with punk, metal, and apparently now hardcore. What's the bloody point?

Anyone else have examples?

It seems irrelevant, until 2030 hits and we're all reading about how Charlie Pride, Slayer, Hanson, and Deep Purple were all indy power pop acts. It's like the Onion but satire replaces reality.
 

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"Hair metal" used to mean poofy glammy spandex and hairspray bands like Slaughter, Poison, Trixter
however
I've heard people refer to bands like Iron Maiden as "hair metal" recently.

I just chalk it up to ignorance (or maybe more aptly, having enough of a life where you don't split hairs so much over these things "uhhhmmm, actually, Iron Maiden orignated in the NWOBHM era in the early 80s which totally predates the period of hair metal" )
 

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I'm not even sure the term "hardcore punk" was initially applied to UK bands, although many bands fit.

There's "stoner/doom".

Also "butt rock" and "pomp rock".
 

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I'm not even sure the term "hardcore punk" was initially applied to UK bands, although many bands fit.

There's "stoner/doom".

Also "butt rock" and "pomp rock".
Forgot about Butt Rock. Totally was just "rock" or "alt rock" in the 90s, got the new name later. Probably on YouTube.
The original hardcore bands were just the faster punk bands in the early ish 80s. By 20 years later, they were just punk bands to me. Other people were into minor threat and black flag, I was into Dead Kennedys and Bad Brains. I was confused to hear all of them later referred to as the same subgenre in interviews with people involved in the DC punk scene.

And Blowtorch, Maiden getting lumped in that confused me too. So did Priest getting thrown in. It's just metal.

Is the commonality people who discover the music way later trying to lump it with or isolate it from other stuff?
I'm not too proud to say Beavis and Butthead ruined Winger for me, but Maiden is next level compared to hair metal poster children. (Maiden is next level compared to anything but classical. Even prog isn't as good, just pretentious...)
 

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The (average) mind craves order.

So, We tend toward putting things in boxes/categorizing.

99.9% of people who know who Metallica is have no idea there’s a category called “thrash” or “thrash metal” that they supposedly fit into.

And of the bands that supposedly fit into the “thrash metal“ genre? Megadeath, Slayer, Anthrax, Metallica, etc ?

I like one. The one that went to therapy together !

Little boxes…
 

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One man’s opinion but the razor-thin slicing of already pretty well defined genres is kind of dumb. Really common in both EDM and metal (or harder genres) since the early 90s; hilariously pretentious and adds nothing except impressing/arguing with other genre nerds.
Agreed but it's kinda important when you're a sullen 15 yr old LA Guns , Faster Pussycat and (EARLY!) Motley Crue fan wanting to distinguish yourself from the fore-mentioned dread Winger fans, to call yourself a fan of SLEAZE METAL
 

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Lemmy insisted to the end that Motörhead was a rock ’n’ roll band.

They aren’t in that section of the record shop though.
Lemmy was full of crap in that regard
His rockabilly attempts are the worst, second in suckage only to Neil Young
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as long as we're talking tallica, with all respect to ride the lightning (I was lucky enough to see Cliff live) this was their pinnacle
 

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One man’s opinion but the razor-thin slicing of already pretty well defined genres is kind of dumb. Really common in both EDM and metal (or harder genres) since the early 90s; hilariously pretentious and adds nothing except impressing/arguing with other genre nerds.
Should add I have been needlessly fussy about distinctions between flavors of both EDM and metal.

Someone here recently explained the difference between grindcore and something else l thought was basically the same, and it was pretty thoughtful. My genre tastes just run 20mi wide and an inch deep; if you are way into one or a few related genres, I can see where small distinctions matter. Still just funny to me:

 

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I prefer to catalog music as “I like” or “they suck”.
Genre names can be misleading. Thrash was the skate rock that was just slightly more edgy than Agent Orange. No Doubt and Rancid still get called “ska”. And there’s not a country station on the planet that would play George Jones. Metal is just whatever you say it is. Same with rock or disco or rap.

Stack 1 is “I like”, stack 2 is “that sucks”.
 
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