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Discussion in 'Bad Dog Cafe' started by blowtorch, Mar 7, 2021.
And no doubt, Yellow Submarine does suck.
Clickbait 60's newspaper headline, who would have imagined it!
The actual review is actually more nuanced: Link
Bottom line: he went song by song, liked some, disliked others. The journalist picked the most controversial quote from the whole interview for the subheading, of course (Davies doesn't think the whole album is "rubbish", only Yellow Submarine).
The Kinks also did "Ape Man"...compare that to "Easter Parade!"
Mmmm, says the man who wrote the line:
"And when he pulls his frilly nylon panties right up tight..."
Master of cheek.
I wonder if he and his brother saw eye to eye on this review.
Didn’t they beat the living snot outta each other? I always thought they made the Gallaghers look like choir boys.
"I'm an apeman, I'm an ape apeman, I'm an apeman"...
Bob Dylan should retire right now!
I never get tired of listening to Revolver. I loved the Beatles, and hearing what they came up with was always fun whether it was a masterpiece or a silly scribble. The productions were always atmospheric and listenable.
I won't ever forget "Lola"!
The Beatles were amazing. The diversity of The White Album is extraordinary.
This has given me some impetus to explore The Kinks more, so I thank you all.
I am guilty of alot of things, among them taking the hits/radio play of a group and going from there. Hits are an introduction to a band and their sound, at the very least. That of course leads to a problem in that the hits do not represent any band, solely based upon what was a hit, as chosen by....whomever. There is just so much out there from the 60s alone, much less the 70s. After that, well...hairspray. That is another thread.
The Kinks stuff I do have, and it is in singles form d/l'd from the internet, I like/love of course, or else I wouldn't have it. I'm thinking I need to get whole albums to continue. That really is the best policy actually, and I need to stick to it.
I am reminded that John Lennon, I think in an interview on Dick Cavett or Merv Griffin maybe, where he said 'I really did think we were the best Rock and Roll band out there', to paraphrase. You have to have that attitude really, especially then I think. He also still carried the Teddy Boy attitude, despite the suit and tie. Peace and Love wasn't yet fully in his house. So a comment he made to The Kinks backstage was I think a reflection of that.
Intersting how the KinKs and later the Jam wrote extensively in their lyrics about very British themes.
I love the KinKs, the Beatles, the Who, the Small Faces, the Dave Clark Five, the Rolling Stones and all of those mid-60s U.k. bands.
Ray Davies and his brother Dave have penned hours and hours of great tunes. My favorite KinKs song is Days, but I've long maintained that You Really Got Me is one of the most influential songs in the history of rock and roll. Death of a Clown, Sunday Afternoon, Waterloo Sunset, Lola, etc. just add to the legacy.
As for albums, the under-appreciated Sleepwalker is probably one of my top 5 or 10 albums of all time. Like others, I also think The Village Green Preservation Society is an exceptional piece of work.
Whether Ray Davies is the greatest songwriter of all-time makes for a great debate. However, that he is one of the greatest is objectively worth noting.
When John Lennon finds out he's going to kick his ass.
I think at some point the Beatles decided to stop touring and concentrate on studio work. In that regard I think experimentation might take center stage.
I see a band making a choice along a continuum; should we arrange songs to be played live as recorded, or go full out on any studio tricks we can pull for recording fun?
As far as opinions...........................
The Kinks are great. The Beatles are great. Revolver isn't Rubbish. Ray Davies isn't the world's best songwriter. Very good - songs like Waterloo Sunset and Stop Your Sobbing are enough. Let alone Lola and You Really Got Me. Sunny Sunday and Lola were massive hits when I were a lad.
But compared to Something, Here Comes The Sun, While My Guitar Gently Weeps? Nup, snd that's just Harrison. Then there's Yesterday, Get Back, Back In The USSR, Day Tripper, Hard Days Night, Norwegian Wood....
And the KinKs' live version of Milk Cow Blues is the best version of them all.
The Kinks 'Milk Cow Blues ' Beat Club Performance - YouTube
Come Dancing was one of my favorites as a teen. + Destroyer. And never thought this one got enough credit. Love it! :