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Discussion in 'Bad Dog Cafe' started by blowtorch, Mar 7, 2021.
Tha gauntlet has been dropped!
Some 54 years ago
Who was Ray Davies?
Ray Davies is the greatest songwriter of all time.
Love Ray Davies and the Kinks, either my first or second favorite 60s (70s, 80s) British band. I cant accurately even assess the Beatles any more, I’ve heard it all too much. So it’s refreshing to read an attempt at an objective review without adulation. But nothing is completely objective, of course...
I read somewhere that in later years Davies was deeply disappointed the Kinks didn’t get bigger than they were, so I can’t help but think he already harbored some jealousy in ‘66. The Kinks were more rebellious (even the name) and more than anything he seems to be criticizing conformity.
Viva Ray Davies!
Not British enough
I'm a Kinks/Ray Davies fan from when I first heard the band back in '65 (?). Beatles are my all-time fave band. Bob Dylan is my favorite songwriter.
Having said that, I get where Ray was coming from. Arguably, he may be the greatest songwriter of all time. I've never designated anyone as 'greatest songwriter'. It's too big a field with too many great songwriters for me to decide.
Hmm, 1966 - The Beatles released "Revolver", The Kinks released "Face to Face".
I love The Kinks, and listen to them a lot more than I do The Beatles, but face it - FtF has one good song "Sunny Afternoon".
Kinks lose the 1966 face-off.
But they did provide a hit for Herman's Hermits:
I enjoyed that. Thanks for posting.
Made me laugh that journalism never changes. The same mechanism that we call clickbait journalism was alive and well back in the 60s. The article makes it look like Davies was calling the record rubbish but that's not really what it says if you read it. He called Yellow Submarine rubbish while mostly praising the rest of the album, but you'd never know it from the headline.
Interesting to see a (maybe slightly sensationalized?) contemporary opinion by one of the Beatles’ peers.
Revolver was my first full length Beatles album after the red and blue compilation albums. My dad wasn’t a big Beatles fan but he liked Revolver, so that’s why he bought it for me. I didn’t get it the first few listens but it very quickly grew on me and now Rubber Soul and Revolver are my two favourite Beatles albums.
Face To Face is still a great album, and I find myself reaching for Something Else By The Kinks and Village Green Preservation Society more than the fab four’s albums from those two years. Not that one is better than the other.
I agree, Bieber is about as qualified as Ray Davies to criticize the Beatles.
I'm sure IF by some random chance Lennon or McCartney read this article, they asked themselves the same question.
I didn't know that Ray wrote Dandy. It was indeed a big hit and was popular on AM Radio when I was growing up back on the Rock (Newfoundland).
I'm 71 and was glued to the radio way back then.
Ray Davies? Who?
Oh, yeah, he was that guy in the Clash!
Sunny Afternoon is my favorite Kinks song. However, Waterloo Sunset, while maybe a little sappy, is a good tune and was a favorite of mine as well as were many Kinks songs.