Ravens vs. Crows

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  1. ce24

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    Murder of crows.....they hang out in bunches. Ravens hang out in pairs and vocalize more of a croak sound.
     
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    We have them all over up here. Ravens are easily my favorite wild bird. We have eagles all over up here as well. Best place to see them is the landfill.

    I watched a raven open my trash can, pick up a jar of peanut butter and drop it and break it, then eat what was left inside. I've never seen an eagle do anything smart.
     
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    Sometimes, rarely but once in a while, I click on the “show ignored content”, I did and it confirmed why some people are ignored.
    Back to the crows and ravens
     
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    When we moved here to the edge of the Witch’s Forest, I took a shot at a couple of them.

    Then it occurred to me, they go to work every morning like the rest of us.

    I wouldn’t think of shooting a crow now.

    Really neat birds when get to know them.

    Plus they are the absolute rulers of the yard
     
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    The ravens in the Tower also get their wings clipped, so they can’t fly away!
     
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    Killing birds just for fun that are fully protected by law under the Migratory Bird Act of 1918?

    Way to go! :(
     
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    I can’t advise on your particular locale, but it’s totally legal here. Well...we still have to have licenses and abide other regulations and property rights and so forth.
     
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    I knew this bird .

    He couldn’t ...

     
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    I listened to a podcast where the guy said he thinks we could train ravens to protect us... if they see a shooter.... he just dive bombs it... I like it!
     
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    Ravens are pretty smart alright. Just off our land is a well established whitetail birthing ground. You can always tell when the first fawns are born, by the number of ravens showing up and hanging around for a few weeks. Of course, they attract the mountain lions to the same area too. It can get quite noisy around here.
     
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    According to an ornithologist I once met, many Native Tribes called the raven “brother of the wolf.” According to her, ravens will spot Large animal prey and alert the wolves with some distinct call. After the wolves are done the ravens clean up.
     
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    So there is only one species of birds that are tool users. And that is crows. They are arguably the smartest birds on the planet - some argue the African Grey - maybe too close to call.

    But if killing smart things is your joy, go for it.
     
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    Yep, that's us. Just mean old hunters out there in the woods and on the farms killing smart things, cute things, furry things, tasty things, etc. Heaven forbid we find any enjoyment in it! :lol::lol::lol:
     
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    There was a crow in our neighborhood when I was in elementary school (early '70s) that was a "pet" of some family.

    The crow's name was Billy, and he was able to "talk". I remember him saying "White snow", "My name is Billy" and a couple of other things (kind of odd since it does not snow much in Seattle).

    Billy used to regularly fly on over to visit at our school.

    He knew Pam because she lived next door to his family. Billy used to chase and harass Pam on the playground as she would run screaming- swooping down on her head, etc. He did not bother anyone else.

    When we were in class (on the second floor), Billy would land on the windowsill as close to Pam as he could and begin pecking on the glass. The teacher tried moving Pam across the room, but Billy persisted. Eventually, the teacher would pull the blinds and Billy would finally leave and go about his other crow business.

    This happened 2-3 times a week during my sixth grade year.

    True story.

    I wonder if Pam remembers...
     
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    A buddy of mine who ran a crew for a vegetable packing company had a lead man who was Hispanic. He saw my buddy shooting some crows that were hanging around the facility because his boss had "unofficially" told him to get rid of them. The lead guy told me where he came from in Mexico it was bad news to shoot crows, mucho bad luck. I don't know if it had anything to do with it, but my buddy got mixed up with an old gal from the past, divorced his wife, pulled his 401K out of the company, put his new car in the gals name to avoid losing it in the divorce. Him and the gal ran off to Texas where she took off in HER car, with HIS money, and left him with nothing to hold onto but a mule he called Fred.

    Point is, I ain't all that superstitious but I'm not sure about my buddy now. Just in case, it's a good thing you changed your attitude about shooting crows. ;)
     
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    I like the Corvids and their close relatives, the jays. These are some of the smartest birds you will find.

    I mean, take for example the dull minded male cardinal, pecking at its image in the car side mirror. A crow or raven is too wise for anything as foolish as that. The Stellar's Jays are also real smart, as are the Scrub Jays of Florida and the of California.
     
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    I know it's the law of the air jungle, but them Scrub Jays will eat every baby dove they can find. I mean they'll one gulp 'em. The Scrub Jay taught me the futility of trying to rescue doves or help with the nesting, them dirty boys just wait and watch, and when they are big enough for a meal, they swoop right in and eat 'em up! Still they are handsome birds no doubt.
     
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    I’ve heard stories of crows bringing trinkets and shiny things to people who are kind to them. I have a few that hang out on the utility poles in my backyard in the early morning, making their clicking noises and being generally menacing. I read that they’re territorial and nest in the same area for generations so the crows you regularly see are families that have been there for decades. They are absolutely one of my favorite animals.
     
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    Cool song...the melody and rhythm can fool you on this one. The lyrics are kinda heavy.

    [Lyrics Joni Mitchell - The Beat of Black Wings]
    I met a young soldier
    He said his name was Killer Kyle
    He was shakin' all over
    Like a night-frightened child
    This is his story
    It's a tough one for me to sing
    Hard as the squawk and the flap
    And the beat of, the beat of black wings

    They gave me a gun, he said
    They gave me a mission
    For the power and the glory,
    Propaganda, piss on 'em
    There's a war zone inside me,
    I can feel things exploding,
    I can't even hear the ****ing music playing
    For the beat of, the beat of black wings.

    He said, I never had nothin',
    Nothin' I could believe in
    My girl killed our unborn child
    Without even grievin'!
    I put my hands on her belly
    To feel the kid kickin', damn!
    She'd been to some clinic
    Oh, the beat of black wings.

    They want you, they need you,
    They train you to kill,
    To be a pin on some map,
    Some vicarious thrill,
    The old hate the young
    That's the whole heartless thing
    The old pick the wars
    We die in 'em
    To the beat of, the beat of black wings.

    There's a man drawing pictures
    On the sidewalk with chalk
    Just as fast as he draws 'em
    Rain come down and wash 'em off
    Keep the drinks comin' girl
    'Til I can't feel anything
    I'm just a chalk mark in a rainstorm
    I'm just the beat of black wings.
     
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