Rant - Have people forgotten live gig etiquette?

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I’m sure this will be a rather unpopular take on this, but I need to ask…what was the laptop being used for? Set list? Lyrics? A device to deliver/manage lighting cues/video on a screen behind the band? Being used as a mixer?

Not that I’m agreeing AT ALL with what the organizer/attendees did, but if someone in the band was constantly fidgeting with the laptop during the set, it may have sent mixed signals or annoyed the folks in question. I might suggest (IF the laptop is 100% necessary—mixer, lighting/video cues, etc) putting it in a more discrete location. If being used for lyrics only…memorize them instead. If being used for set list only…write it down instead and tape it to the stage.
they wouldn't allow the regulation size pink poodle in because being part of the act doesn't qualify as part of the act , so the laptop was used to do the poodle bits.
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I'd say... Ummm, probably.
It's not so much to do with age groups, either.
In a story I've told once or twice before, I attended a Gordon Lightfoot
concert in San Antonio back in 2018 and a fight almost broke out between two elderly women
seated near me. One was recording the entire concert on her phone, holding it up in a way to obstruct the view of the stage. The second woman (and anybody in the area) didn't appreciate this.

You wouldn't ordinarily think of mayhem erupting between two elderly women during
a Gordon Lightfoot concert, and during a quieter part of his set.
I haven't attended many live music events (especially those with pricey tickets) since then.
I saw a knife fight break out at a ZZTop concert in Montana in the row in front of us ...
But then, you gotta sorta EXPECT that sort of thing, right?
After all, they wrote "Tush," which is the perfect soundtrack for a bar brawl ...
But jeeze - two old broads duking it out at a Gordon Lightfoot concert?
People really do suck sometimes ... regardless of age or musical taste.
 

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I'd say... Ummm, probably.
It's not so much to do with age groups, either.
In a story I've told once or twice before, I attended a Gordon Lightfoot
concert in San Antonio back in 2018 and a fight almost broke out between two elderly women
seated near me. One was recording the entire concert on her phone, holding it up in a way to obstruct the view of the stage. The second woman (and anybody in the area) didn't appreciate this.

You wouldn't ordinarily think of mayhem erupting between two elderly women during
a Gordon Lightfoot concert, and during a quieter part of his set.
I haven't attended many live music events (especially those with pricey tickets) since then.

This is why I don't go to gigs anymore... the "I must record every experience so I can post it on social media to convince others and myself that my life is wonderful" moronicity has infected the entire world.

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People tend to request songs without the slightest connection to the setlist they've been listened to for the past hour ("Do you play some Kylie Minogue?" became a running gag in our band).
Funny enough, I've never had anyone request a song that was completely out of keeping with what I or my band and I were playing. At worst, it's a song I/we don't particularly like but is still consistent with our style/genre.
About how old do you think this person is?
She looked to be in her late '30s or early '40s. I'm not very good at the age-guessing game but she did not seem particularly old to me. Her behaviour was definitely not particularly mature, especially when she was visibly annoyed that we weren't going to stop playing so that she could play her YouTube video(s).
I’m sure this will be a rather unpopular take on this, but I need to ask…what was the laptop being used for? Set list? Lyrics? A device to deliver/manage lighting cues/video on a screen behind the band? Being used as a mixer?

Not that I’m agreeing AT ALL with what the organizer/attendees did, but if someone in the band was constantly fidgeting with the laptop during the set, it may have sent mixed signals or annoyed the folks in question. I might suggest (IF the laptop is 100% necessary—mixer, lighting/video cues, etc) putting it in a more discrete location. If being used for lyrics only…memorize them instead. If being used for set list only…write it down instead and tape it to the stage.
That's a good point. I hadn't thought of it that way. Usually the laptop is for lyrics and set lists. We probably should print them out or memorize them. In my other band (the one with the singer who goofs off nowadays onstage), we almost never follow a set list (for better or worse).
 

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I’ve never experienced anything like the OP, but I am surprised by the number if people that want to have a conversation with one of us while we are playing. Like they just come up and start taking to you. Sometimes between songs but sometimes during songs. Like, WTF? I guess this goes along with what everyone else is saying. A lot of people are oblivious. I imagine these being the same type of people who fall off cliffs while taking selfies.
Develop a stinkeye.
 

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She looked to be in her late '30s or early '40s. I'm not very good at the age-guessing game but she did not seem particularly old to me. Her behaviour was definitely not particularly mature, especially when she was visibly annoyed that we weren't going to stop playing so that she could play her YouTube video(s).

Old enough to know better then.
 

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Comedy gold, when it happens.

At a recent Blues gig, an astonishingly attractive young woman requested something, by Kenny Rogers. I immediately responded, by playing a medley of hits from Kenny's idol......Sonny Boy Williamson. :lol:

She was delighted, to have been acknowledged and danced to the medley as well as two dozen more songs, by folks she hadn't heard of, previously. Show biz, huh? 😁
 

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Very weird.
Consider not keeping a laptop onstage.
Why would you have a computer onstage, anyway.
Just curious.
Depenz.
I've had a computer running a MIDI keyboard. Anyone (anyone) touching it loses that arm.
I've had a computer running an entire show (including lights). Ditto the arm thing.
I've had a computer onstage running click tracks and some backing tracks. Still more arm removal penalties.
I've had a computer onstage running the mixer and routing recording tracks. We actually had separate feeds from the computer/mixer to bandmates wanting to run their own mix into ear buds (they were using their own iPads/iPhones for this).

I don't work with singers who call out different keys/different songs than what we've rehearsed. Been there, done that. Not so much any more.

I took requests when I had a stack of fake books sitting on my B3 at the Gypsy Lounge on Dodge Street in Dubuque, Iowa when I was 18 and was surrounded by single cougars. Not so much since then.

Drunken people careening onto (or into) the stage area risk Les Paul size dents in their cranium or a size 12 in some other location. I still like playing dive bars; it's just a fun energy. And sometimes it gets out of control. I have specific bar guitars and much less expensive gear for those gigs, just because.
 

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we had a good idea , and we thought oh this is really a good idea, but we didn't understand the continuances of our good idea, and because we were so sure that our Idea was really a good idea we stopped examining the consequences of our good Idea, which in actuality turned out to be a very bad idea but we were so sure our good idea that we acted on our good idea and once we had acted on our good idea the consequences were horrible and the consequences of our good idea could not be change or undone.
And the myth of Sisyphus was created as a warning about what happens when the actions of the arrogant and short sighted convinced that they are absolutely right are wrong about the idea that they put their faith in.
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Old enough to know better then.
I don't find the age really that important. I'd be pretty annoyed by ANYONE with such entitlement and audacity, if Sixteen or Sixty. Maybe I'd be less blunt with a teenager, but anyone over 20 would get a polite decline first and then a not as polite ripping to shreds.
 

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ah ..... hope springs eternal.
statement "

Have people forgotten live gig etiquette?​

Is operating on an unwarranted assumption.
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This is why I don't go to gigs anymore... the "I must record every experience so I can post it on social media to convince others and myself that my life is wonderful" moronicity has infected the entire world.

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I stopped taking pictures of performers at gigs when I realized if I want complete videos I could just get it from online. I am happy to watch concerts the way they were intended, by actually watching.
 

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Nothing to do with gigging....

But today we were out and about starting at 8am. My wife and 2 of our kids had their annual checkups at 2 separate Dr offices. After that my wife wanted to go to a new store in a town an hour away. While there we finally ate at a restaurant everyone had been raving about to us for at least a year... Based on our experience regarding customer service, be it the receptionists at both Dr offices (the actual drs were fine), the cashiers at the new store and our waitress at the restaurant it was apparent everything just probably needs to be closed for the week from Christmas to New Years. We were treated like "how dare you come in here" everywhere we went today.

It was like an episode of the Twilight Zone or something out Stephen Kings "The Langoliers" out there today. It's never been so apparent people just don't want to work and when they do have to interact they are "hollow-like". Hopefully it gets better after the holidays.
 

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Nothing to do with gigging....

But today we were out and about starting at 8am. My wife and 2 of our kids had their annual checkups at 2 separate Dr offices. After that my wife wanted to go to a new store in a town an hour away. While there we finally ate at a restaurant everyone had been raving about to us for at least a year... Based on our experience regarding customer service, be it the receptionists at both Dr offices (the actual drs were fine), the cashiers at the new store and our waitress at the restaurant it was apparent everything just probably needs to be closed for the week from Christmas to New Years. We were treated like "how dare you come in here" everywhere we went today.

It was like an episode of the Twilight Zone or something out Stephen Kings "The Langoliers" out there today. It's never been so apparent people just don't want to work and when they do have to interact they are "hollow-like". Hopefully it gets better after the holidays.
“People don’t want to work” is someone trying to paper over “People don’t want to work under those conditions and for that little money”.
 

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This is why I don't go to gigs anymore... the "I must record every experience so I can post it on social media to convince others and myself that my life is wonderful" moronicity has infected the entire world.

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What else are you doing that’s better than seeing live music?
 
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