R.E.M: Progenitors of Indie Rock?

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  1. Minimalist518

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    Interesting social experiment, this. I contributed to a thread about College Rock that was starting to turn into a thread about R.E.M. I wanted to talk about R.E.M. and their contemporaries/forbearers without further hijacking the original thread so I started this one.
    Now the R.E.M. thread has devolved into a thread about the Velvet Underground and Velvets-influence-agnosticism. Go figure. [emoji6]
    What would happen if I started a Velvet Underground thread? [emoji23]
     
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    Hopefully it would turn into a thread about The Replacements:eek:
     
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    Forgot to mention the Violent Femmes. Now that was a major (and polarizing) mid 80s underground band that seemed to have very little connection to anything else, stylistically.
     
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    Until some out of touch person who doesn't have a clue about the Replacements writes a delusional Manifesto post about The Monkees being influenced by Chuck Berry.
     
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    Can you still be considered to be an 'Indie' band if you're being published by Warner Brothers?
     
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    Don't feed the Boomers.... ;)
     
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    There was already a burgeoning indie movement in America by the time REM put out their first single... hell, they were even johnny-come-latelys (sorta) in the Athens scene. But they worked hard, had a good sound, toured constantly, and Pete Buck would give an interview to anyone, anywhere. Lots of goodwill thrust them to the forefront pretty quickly, but there were hundreds of bands in cities across the country working the same zines and clubs as often as they were able. Athens/Atlanta, Minneapolis, NYC/Hoboken, Boston, Lawrence KS, LA's hardcore and paisley scenes, SF, the Carolinas... really too many to mention. If you were lucky, your town had a cool music store (or two) that worked hard to get vinyl from, well, everywhere.

    It was a heady time to search out great music if you had your ear to the zines and college radio. REM mattered, but they were only one small part of the whole US and UK (and Australia's) indie scenes in the '80's.
     
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    Beatles kinda had the whole concept back with this:
     
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    Despite this :p
     
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    Swimming Pool Q’s. Look em up. Another Athens band that doesn’t get enough credit and worth a listen.
     
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    One of the many Atlanta bands that got labeled an Athens band.
     
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    The Q's... a great band that spent a fortune recording their second LP on A&M, and were soon back in the indie ranks.
     
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    Wait - along with curing cancer , ending the Vietnam
    War , and changing world history forever and ever -

    they also did whatever this thread is about ?

    Who’d a thunk it ? :confused:
     
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    Oddly enough I first heard the Q's the A Bomb woke me up on Top of the Pops while on vacation in the UK.

    There were a lot of bands in that scene at the time, starting with the B52's but REM just seemed the most viable and with the largest reach, especially after they were on the Letterman show.
     
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    :p I know, right? Listen, it pained me to make that post, but, it's true, I think
     
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    As someone who was involved in college radio in the mid 80s, I can assure you that college/alternative/indie music was already very much a thing at that point. What changed in the early 90s was that some commercial radio stations started featuring more “mainstream alternative” artists and indie rock became much bigger business. I wouldn’t say REM was a progenitor—it would be more accurate to say they were a very-successful example of an earlier band that fit that genre.

    Some other bands that were contemporaries of REM which also influenced the development of indie rock are Talking Heads, dBs, Husker Du, Replacements, 10,000 Maniacs, and (as much as they suck) B52s. There are plenty of other regional acts that never really gained a national audience.

    Before these bands that formed in the late 70s or early 80s, you had the grandfather of indie pop/rock, Big Star.
     
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    I stand corrected.
     
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    Listen to Life's Rich Pageant. Recorded in London.

    You can hear the damp and the claustrophobia.

    I always stick up for this band when people start singing "Shiny happy people".

    Listen to Cuyahoga.




    This is why music was invented.
     
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    Funny thing about calling REM progenitors since when they came out they were what was being called prog rock.

    But when I was watching MTV, when they actually played videos The One I Love came on about once an hour.

    Later when I was in an early 90's rock band (Seattle sound, didn't care for the term grunge since we always- except our singer, who was couch surfing and sleeping in his car- showered daily and wore clean clothes) we covered that song and Driver Eight- with a bit of distortion- some of our less educated fans thought it was an original.

    And The One I Love borrowed pretty heavily from The Beatles Day Tripper, in the bass line at least.
     
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    Nope, Pageant was recorded in Indiana.

    You're probably thinking of Fables.
     
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