memorex
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I'm not, AFAIK. My last A1C was 5.1, a bit high, but still in the normal range.
Quitting processed sugar
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I'm not, AFAIK. My last A1C was 5.1, a bit high, but still in the normal range.
buster poser
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All things in moderation. It's more the type of foods in which you tend to find cheap/refined sugars than them being worse/better than other types of nutrients in and of themselves. You can sure get high-glycemic response out of "natural" foods (whole wheat bread, cereal bars, etc).
This is the only thing about carbs that's worth thinking about in my opinion and has always worked for me:
www.health.harvard.edu
This is the only thing about carbs that's worth thinking about in my opinion and has always worked for me:
Choosing good carbs with the glycemic index - Harvard Health
A rating system called the glycemic index measures how strongly a food affects blood sugar and insulin. Eating foods with a high glycemic index causes blood sugar to climb high quickly. The flood o...
A couple simple concepts.
20% body fat seems to be optimal for longevity. This is quite lean. Staying hungry keeps you alert and makes food taste better. It can also set off bad mood and aggression if you’re not squared away mentally. Therapy can be helpful for almost anyone if you have anger issues. Modern psych meds are worth a look for depression and anxiety that may be triggering your urges to comfort eat.
Digestion seems to age us. It’s an intricate and imperfect and incredibly efficient process to separate what we need from the other junk we don’t, some of which is of dubious safety and inevitably corrupts our systems.
Sugar should be eaten in whole fruit only. It’s useful if you need quick energy and fruits have lots of nutrients, the fiber helps your blood sugar from spiking too much. It’s powerful stuff and can take a toll on your system. It’s habit forming. Alcohol counts as sugar, but much more toxic, of course. Simple carbs like white flour and white rice break down into sugar quickly and will also spike your blood sugar.
Meat and dairy are full of nutrients that we can use, but they are also full of hormones and foreign proteins that are maybe a bit too similar but different from our own. Not to mention potentially horrible things like prion diseases. They increase the likelihood of cancer a bit, and seem to promote a high cholesterol count in overweight people. They are very resource intensive and only affordable due to industrial methods that many maintain are unhealthy and inhumane.
Food can be a wonderful thing! It’s even better when you’re really hungry! But it’s fuel, and running rich all the time is going to clog up your motor.
It’s the things you eat every day that count. If you normally eat fairly clean and light and you’re at 23% body fat, you can have a big slice of cake at a birthday party, a big steak on your own birthday, a bunch of crap at the Super Bowl Party… whatever you want a few times a year with absolutely no guilt.
The thing is, once you’re over the addiction, it won’t taste that good and it will give you a bit of a hangover.
20% body fat seems to be optimal for longevity. This is quite lean. Staying hungry keeps you alert and makes food taste better. It can also set off bad mood and aggression if you’re not squared away mentally. Therapy can be helpful for almost anyone if you have anger issues. Modern psych meds are worth a look for depression and anxiety that may be triggering your urges to comfort eat.
Digestion seems to age us. It’s an intricate and imperfect and incredibly efficient process to separate what we need from the other junk we don’t, some of which is of dubious safety and inevitably corrupts our systems.
Sugar should be eaten in whole fruit only. It’s useful if you need quick energy and fruits have lots of nutrients, the fiber helps your blood sugar from spiking too much. It’s powerful stuff and can take a toll on your system. It’s habit forming. Alcohol counts as sugar, but much more toxic, of course. Simple carbs like white flour and white rice break down into sugar quickly and will also spike your blood sugar.
Meat and dairy are full of nutrients that we can use, but they are also full of hormones and foreign proteins that are maybe a bit too similar but different from our own. Not to mention potentially horrible things like prion diseases. They increase the likelihood of cancer a bit, and seem to promote a high cholesterol count in overweight people. They are very resource intensive and only affordable due to industrial methods that many maintain are unhealthy and inhumane.
Food can be a wonderful thing! It’s even better when you’re really hungry! But it’s fuel, and running rich all the time is going to clog up your motor.
It’s the things you eat every day that count. If you normally eat fairly clean and light and you’re at 23% body fat, you can have a big slice of cake at a birthday party, a big steak on your own birthday, a bunch of crap at the Super Bowl Party… whatever you want a few times a year with absolutely no guilt.
The thing is, once you’re over the addiction, it won’t taste that good and it will give you a bit of a hangover.
No sugar here. Very little carbs. All my numbers are great!
Lost 50 pounds ....
The sugar addiction is real. I was sick for two weeks when I stopped. My weakness is ice cream. I treat myself to a blizzard once a month or so....I pass out after eating it.
Lost 50 pounds ....
The sugar addiction is real. I was sick for two weeks when I stopped. My weakness is ice cream. I treat myself to a blizzard once a month or so....I pass out after eating it.
Please tell me this quitting refined sugar doesn't encompass alcohol. Cause then I would have to shoot muhself.
billy logan
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correction via time-warp - please see post #108 below!
That daring longevity doctor (link in post #76 on p.4 of this thread) not only allows, but actually mandates, wine everyday
But only 1 glass, give or take 1/2 a glass
So. 0.5 to 1.5 glasses of wine daily. Maybe it was specifically red wine, I forget.
That daring longevity doctor (link in post #76 on p.4 of this thread) not only allows, but actually mandates, wine everyday
But only 1 glass, give or take 1/2 a glass
So. 0.5 to 1.5 glasses of wine daily. Maybe it was specifically red wine, I forget.
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I pretend that it doesn’t.
He specifically says that this is not necessarily true and more data is needed. Studies released since then have shown alcohol to have a purely negative effect.That daring longevity doctor (link in post #76 on p.4 of this thread) not only allows, but actually mandates, wine everyday
But only 1 glass, give or take 1/2 a glass
So. 0.5 to 1.5 glasses of wine daily. Maybe it was specifically red wine, I forget.
You have to weigh that against the positive effects on mood and social function for the light drinker. I think the risk is worth it, but I try to keep it under 5 drinks a week.
No sir I drink beer and my wife is a wino. I did switch to low carb beer, sucked at first but you get used to it. I told doctor that I drank beer every day, he smiled and said keep up what you are doing....lolThat daring longevity doctor (link in post #76 on p.4 of this thread) not only allows, but actually mandates, wine everyday
But only 1 glass, give or take 1/2 a glass
So. 0.5 to 1.5 glasses of wine daily. Maybe it was specifically red wine, I forget.
billy logan
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Thank you for the correction, middy, post #108.
You read my link more thoroughly than I did; I remember seeing "0.5 to 1.5 servings" on one of his blue charts (without further description)
As penance I found and offer this link; he spends $62 a day on food! And then LOTS of supplements - pretty wild
blueprint.bryanjohnson.co -------> / <------that's the link
You read my link more thoroughly than I did; I remember seeing "0.5 to 1.5 servings" on one of his blue charts (without further description)
As penance I found and offer this link; he spends $62 a day on food! And then LOTS of supplements - pretty wild
blueprint.bryanjohnson.co -------> / <------that's the link
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jdl57
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When they take cattle to the feed lot to fatten them up, they are fed a diet of corn. Hence the term "corn fed".
An ear of sweet corn, 19 grams of carbohydrates, 2 Oreo cookies, 17 grams. Peas are better, 11 grams per 1/2 cup, kidney beans, 23 grams per 3.5 ounces. A whole head of lettuce, 16 grams.
Eating carbohydrates with fiber or fat does indeed slow down the digestion process helping to mitigate blood sugar spikes, but you still get all of the carbs and calories. Glucose is what travels in your blood and feeds your cells, fructose has to be metabolized in the liver, similar to alcohol. Fructose is the real problem, highly correlated with metabolic syndrome. High fructose corn syrup sweetens most of our "tasty" foods now, but even table sugar is half fructose.
2HBStrat
Friend of Leo's
For real?!?
Cutting out sugar is an excellent move. Dates are a great sweet. I put one in my morning oatmeal. A serving of dates is 3 to 5, which is what I started with but now 1 is enough. Eventually, you'll lose the taste for really sweet foods. I enjoy desserts, but rarely eat them. I generally dislike getting desserts when out as they are way too sweet. My wife bakes some tasty foods, alternative sweeteners like dates or fruits.
billy logan
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Beans are low glycemic index "star performers" according to the Harvard Health link kindly provided by buster poser in post #102 above. And repeated here:
Choosing good carbs with the glycemic index - Harvard Health
Btw I luv Medjool dates. So sweet they can't be low in the glycemic index index??? but they have more potassium than bananas -
What Fruit Has More Potassium Than Bananas?https://healthyeating.sfgate.com › Diet › Calories
Choosing good carbs with the glycemic index - Harvard Health
Btw I luv Medjool dates. So sweet they can't be low in the glycemic index index??? but they have more potassium than bananas -
What Fruit Has More Potassium Than Bananas?https://healthyeating.sfgate.com › Diet › Calories
When you see photos of the guy, you can see how Tolkien could say that Aragorn was in his 70s during the fellowship!
One more thing, once you lose the weight, guys. Go out and buy yourself some new clothes. Some size 32 pants and a medium t-shirt look and feel really good when you're used to being unable to find pants that fit right... you won't look like a kid drowning in his fat dad's clothes. Your arms won't look so scrawny like they do in those big t-shirts.
jdl57
Tele-Meister
Sucrose (table sugar) is 50% glucose and 50% fructose.
robt57
Telefied
I have not intentionally eaten anything with corn syrup in 20 years.
I bring my own maple syrup on the occasion we get pancakes out or use jelly with cane sugar, one place has this.
Just use 1/2 as much as a moderation is what I've done.
As far as alchol, 1/14/23 was15th aniversary. The surprise elimination of those sugars was a sweet tooth I ever had surfaced. And a lot of Les Paul funding, if you get my drift..
Tell you this, stopping alchohol consumption slowed yearly needed detal up keep to nearly non existance..
But yeah, best outcome! We also only use organic sources for lots of repeated consumables.
Best trick really is cut portion, then your getting 1/2 doses of everything, and spending less doing it. Easier to keep your weight a constant as well.
Garbage in.
I bring my own maple syrup on the occasion we get pancakes out or use jelly with cane sugar, one place has this.
Just use 1/2 as much as a moderation is what I've done.
As far as alchol, 1/14/23 was15th aniversary. The surprise elimination of those sugars was a sweet tooth I ever had surfaced. And a lot of Les Paul funding, if you get my drift..
Tell you this, stopping alchohol consumption slowed yearly needed detal up keep to nearly non existance..
But yeah, best outcome! We also only use organic sources for lots of repeated consumables.
Best trick really is cut portion, then your getting 1/2 doses of everything, and spending less doing it. Easier to keep your weight a constant as well.
Garbage in.
I do a simple breakfast and a gourmet "Factor" premade meal (550 calories) before 4:00 PM, or if I miss the 4:00 deadline I skip the evening meal altogether.
No evening snack unless it's a slice of cheese.
Walking daily target is 10,000 steps, but I often settle for ~4,000 steps.
I'm 6''2" small frame man 69 years old that was almost 400 pounds. I'm currently ~230, actually up from 209 (bottom of grief bucket) that shot up to 276, so now I'm headed back in the correct direction in a healthy way.
Water intake helps the sugar withdrawal somehow for me. Your mileage will vary, all of our bodies react differently to same or similar diet changes. I don't do diets of fad dietary changes.
My cardiologist told me when I was bumping 400 pounds and borderline diabetic type 2; I quote, "I would rather have cancer 12 times rather than becoming diabetic!"
After watching what the prevailing consensus about my late wife's cerebral vascular disease's root cause probably was (they never figured out the root cause of her blood clots) her diabetic type 2 condition. After watching that you couldn't hold me down a force sugar into me.
You will get plenty from fruits and veggies. More than enough.
2HBStrat
Friend of Leo's
I didn't know that and I'm surprised. I hardly ever use actual sugar. I looked on the bag of sugar than is in my cupboard (it's been so long since I used it that it has gotten completely solid) and no ingredients are listed. I guess glucose and fructose are both just 'sugar?'
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