Quit drinking last weekend...

Discussion in 'Bad Dog Cafe' started by Axegrinder77, Oct 17, 2019.

  1. telemnemonics

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    I think we were typing at the same time as I didn't see your post until after I posted.

    True about sobersex!
    Glad you're doing well too.
    You could easily be on of the lucky heavy drinkers who are not alcoholics, just got into a bad habit etc.
    Let's hope that's the case!

    Note though that not experiencing withdrawals is not at all related to being an alcoholic.
    This is confusing to the whole issue, and maybe even more so to opiate addicts, though of course society tends to put more of a stigma on using opiates for fun than on social drinking.

    The thing about withdrawal is that both opiates and alcohol are physically addictive if used in large enough amounts on a daily basis.
    But it is possible for a non alcoholic to drink daily and suffer withdrawal when they stop, but then have no symptoms of actual alcoholism.
    Likewise some alcoholics have little or no physical withdrawal if binge drinking was their way.

    Similarly millions of patients are put on morphine or other opiates for surgery or accident recovery.
    The physical addiction doesn't distinguish between addict and non addict.
    But the non addict will feel like they have the flu, be unable to sleep, experience muscle spasms, chills and sweats.
    The difference is that if you ask them if they want more morphine, they ask why they would want to keep taking that stuff!

    Of course with drinking we associate socializing and places to go with the drink, so a "social drinker" is more likely to feel like having a beer than would a post surgery patient feel like having a shot of morphine.

    Yet physically, the addiction to alcohol and opiates is the same basic physical event where the body gets sick when a daily addictive substance is stopped.

    The physical addiction is not the same as the "disease of addiction", which does not depend on a physical addiction at all.
    Medically there are food addicts, gambling addicts, pot addicts, and even video game and shopping addicts.
    Those are all now recognized as medical conditions, and the condition has the common core of addiction where the afflicted cannot stop and stay stopped on their own.
     
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    wow that's a content rich post.
    The assertions are conceptualized in ways that I an obsessive compulsive have not ever though of in that way. As an addict alcoholic in recovery one thing that I try not to do is speak when listening to others and or speak outside of my own experience. I've heard a lot of program voodoo knowingly rolling from well intentioned mouths that in no way align with my experience in any meaningful manner. I would never try to sell a fish a bike, or tell others what it is out side of the parameters of "this is what works for me."
     
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    did someone say that sex after booze actually happens?
    I sure wish someone would have told me that a couple of decades before now?
    Intimacy while conscious, actually being there while it's happening.
    Come on now , you are pulling my leg.
     
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  4. bcorig

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    My pour is bigger than yours.
     
  5. Axegrinder77

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    I know right?!

    At first I thought " well it's a good thing a drank in my twenties.. That's how I hooked up, at bars!"

    But in reality, if I could go back in time... Sure, I'd buy the girl a drink, as a gentleman (and to ease her inhibitions), and I'd have soda. When (if) she questions it, I'd respond with something like "I'm better in bed without booze." Seems bold... If I only knew how powerful that would have been!
     
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    Listening. Something Alcoholics are not very good at. I know all to well.
     
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    I am using a "standard glass" of wine.
     
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    Well, good on 'ya!
    I'm an occasional drinker (I just had a bottle of wine with dinner) but I never drank while playing- until the end of the night when I might have one. I like to stay in control. Keep going, you'll be better for it.
     
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    1. Buy your wife flowers.
    2. Go to counseling/AA.
    3. Be around to watch your son grow up.
     
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    Glad to hear it.
     
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    good luck to you, and may you find your way to a healthy life for you and your family
     
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    good luck to you, i hope you can stay on the wagon and hope you can be a great father to your son
     
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    I never knew what a standard glass was. It just seemed we only get 4 glasses out of each bottle.
    Good information. Thanks.
    Still 2 liters is a lot of wine.
     
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    Good for you! I never drank enough to have serious withdrawals either but I am definitely an alchoholic. Not saying you are, but i wouldn't rule it out because of that. Sometimes i wish I had had a seizure or something, maybe i would have hit bottom sooner. Sounds like you are doing well, keep it up!
     
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    I drink the wine in 0,33l glasses with sparkling water (ca.5% alc) over a period of ca. 8h...about 15 drinks..at about 11 p.m. my liver has processed 76g of alcohol that's 80% of the first bottle ...so I drink myself "sober."..;)
     
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    After 4-5 oz headache is what limits me.
    When I quit, it was because I was self medicating. Almost lost everything. My marriage and career accelerated positive after quitting. Never felt better.
    When I went back 20 years later, I had a healthy respect for it. Tasty Spirits (Bourbon) Wine, Beer in moderation to light Buzz are fine. I’ve been drunk a couple of times since restart. Didn’t like it and now avoid it.
    And then there are the headaches.
     
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    And several trips to the bathroom! Me, anyway :oops:
     
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