Question of Weight

Discussion in 'Vintage Tele Discussion Forum (pre-1974)' started by PhilippeZ, Feb 26, 2020.

  1. PhilippeZ

    PhilippeZ TDPRI Member

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    I just bought a “non-original” 1968 Telecaster: Refretted neck, refinished paint and recreated neck pickup area after a humbucker modification. Only pickups and electronics seems to be original. I’m not a collector, so the first thing that interesting me is the playability and the sound of my new guitar. I owned it for few days, but my first impressions are that the pickups are not as powerful and precise than the BKP of my Esquire but the 68’s are plenty of harmonics and a nice "dirty vintage sound". The neck seems very comfortable too.

    The question that interesting me right now is the weight of my new Tele. I weigh it at 2,98kg so 6,57 lbs. Do you know such light vintage Telecaster and how can be explained the difference with other Telecaster weighed at more than 7lbs? The body of mine seems to be made of swamp ash, which is a light wood, is it the usual material for body in 60s? I don’t think that the body mods change for a large part the weight. Do you think the body is the original one (period-correct)? Is anybody knows what the marking on the heel means?

    However, the very light weight is a very nice surprise for playability of this guitar.

    Please find pictures of the guitar components and of the repair of the body. Let me know your opinion about this Telly.

    Thank you very much in advance.

    Philippe
     

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  2. Blue Bill

    Blue Bill Poster Extraordinaire

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    Bonjour, Phillippe, welcome aboard. It looks like a fine Tele. The weight is mostly due to the wood the body is made from. You may just have a light piece of wood. These days, light weight guitars are popular, many of them have a sweet tone. Plus, there's less strain on your shoulder.

    I think the stamp on the neck indicates that it was built in October of 1968, the stamp looks legitimate. You may want to experiment with adjusting the pickup height, to see if you can get the tone you want. Post us a picture when you get it back together.
     
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  3. etype

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    I am no expert on whether it's the original body, but a swamp ash body that weighs 3.5 lbs, while not common, is not unheard of.
     
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    MilwMark Doctor of Teleocity Ad Free Member

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    Telecasters vary regularly from 6lb to 9lb.

    Why are you surprised that two Teles would weigh .5 lb different?

    I don’t really follow.
     
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  5. PhilippeZ

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    I didn't think that it could made a such difference with same variety of wood. It seems enormous in term of density. I was simply surprises in comparison to my MiM Classic 50 Esquire. Thanks for your answers.
     
  6. Adam Wolfaardt

    Adam Wolfaardt Tele-Meister

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    Very nice weight. You got lucky
     
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    You can always sell it to me!
     
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    Yeah fairly rare but not impossible.
    Good find.

    Hard to see the tiny pics though so I'm only commenting on the 6.57lbs weight.
     
  9. PhilippeZ

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    Yes, the feather weight is a really appreciable quality. It’s the strong point of this Telecaster. I was a bit disappointed by the pickups especially for the neck one, which is not much better than the Squier Classic vibe one (I consider that the Classic Vibe PU are very good). By the way, I have a doubt on the « period-correct » of this pickup because of the plastic insulation of the wires. I´ll add a pictures tomorrow. The seller said me that the change of this components took place in 1968-1969. Is it right?
     
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  11. Adam Wolfaardt

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    Plastic covered wire is correct for '68. Are you in Paris?
     
  12. PhilippeZ

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    I’m from East of France near Dijon. But France is a small country, Paris is only 2hours by train.
     
  13. LKB3rd

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    I have a 6.5 pound MIM 50's classic. Ash, maple, same wood as yours. I have a 50's Classic Esquire, weighs around 7.5 pounds, and that is missing a pickup! So yes, this isn't impossible.
    Nice looking guitar!
     
  14. Adam Wolfaardt

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    If you come to Paris bring you tele with you. I'm always happy to meet a tele fan. :)
     
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    Winds on pickups went down progressively - 60s pickups are noted for nice clarity and sparkle. Note the 1 meg pots of that era make the sound a little thinner and treblier. 250k volume pot would make it a bit fuller but they're not high output pickups.
     
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    Thanks. I confess that I'm thinking to change PUs for Bare Knucle ones. I know that it could be a sacrilege but I don't want this Tele to hang on a wall... The picture of the PUs.
     

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    You shouldn't need to change the pickups. The old ones sound fabulous unless there's something wrong with them
     
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    Ash can be light. It can also be dang heavy!
     
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    You are right Adam, changing the pickups is a non-sense on a vintage guitar. I own this Tele since only one weeks, I must play with it and make it mine. Thanks for the advice. DDE9F938-90C9-455B-A454-5F219C7A07BE.jpeg
     
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  20. toomuchfun

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    Great looking Telecaster. I had a '68 that was that light. And mine had one of the best sounding neck pick ups I've ever heard. Try lowering the pick ups some if you have them close to the strings. When you hit the right spot you will know.
     
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