PSA: Please Don't Call her Cali!

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a late afternoon stop at the cafe in town for a packet of hot chips.

rip one end of the packet open to let out the steam to keep them crispy, jam it in the console and snack on hot chips during the drive home.. any left overs get put into a sandwich to complete the ritual when I get home...;)
 

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a late afternoon stop at the cafe in town for a packet of hot chips.

rip one end of the packet open to let out the steam to keep them crispy, jam it in the console and snack on hot chips during the drive home.. any left overs get put into a sandwich to complete the ritual when I get home...;)
…get home feeling like a king,I reckon!
 

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@Skully, I have a question for you. I'm not a native Californian -- born and raised in Philadelphia -- but I have lived in the San Francisco area for many years. Over my years here, I've met lots of local folks and I've also met lots of southern Californians.

San Francisco people say that San Francisco has this big rivalry with Los Angeles. But the L.A. folks I've talked to, don't even know about it. Or care. Do you feel a rivalry between Los Angeles and San Francisco?

It's funny you should mention that. I often make the same analogy about San Francisco vs. Los Angeles as I do Oregon vs. California -- and also Canada vs. the U.S.

In the first half of the 20th Century, Los Angeles was viewed as a cultural cow town. Nevermind that it attracted many of the best artists from around the globe. There was too much sunshine... Too many pretty people, crassly pursuing fame and fortune, then gaudily flaunting it once was attained.

Yeah, anyway... That line of thinking stopped being viable more than half a century ago. The only rivalry Angelenos feel with San Francisco is Dodgers vs. Giants, and not so much lately.
 
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@Skully, I have a question for you. I'm not a native Californian -- born and raised in Philadelphia -- but I have lived in the San Francisco area for many years. Over my years here, I've met lots of local folks and I've also met lots of southern Californians.

San Francisco people say that San Francisco has this big rivalry with Los Angeles. But the L.A. folks I've talked to, don't even know about it. Or care. Do you feel a rivalry between Los Angeles and San Francisco?
I grew up a Giant's fan in Southern California. Dodger fans never forgot or forgave Juan Marichal for clunking Johnny Roseboro in the head with his bat. Dodger fans DEFINITELY want to beat the Giants, but not that much more than any other team.

SF Giants fans are loose cannons off the hook venting years of frustration and low self esteem (no joke); not a knock per se as I am one of those fans. SF Giants fans take the rivalry much more seriously.
 

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@Skully, I have a question for you. I'm not a native Californian -- born and raised in Philadelphia -- but I have lived in the San Francisco area for many years. Over my years here, I've met lots of local folks and I've also met lots of southern Californians.

San Francisco people say that San Francisco has this big rivalry with Los Angeles. But the L.A. folks I've talked to, don't even know about it. Or care. Do you feel a rivalry between Los Angeles and San Francisco?
I never felt any rivalry between San Francisco and Los Angeles when I lived in either town, beyond sports team rivalry.

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the state formerly known as cali was shakin it up yesterday.... made the midday news here...

did anyone blink?..;)
We had a quake here (years ago) and my wife was very shook by it. That is not a sex pun. I really went out and held the tv. She did not know what to do, and I had to repeat "just be away from the windows." I remember one hitting as a kid and everything on any store shelf just came down.
 

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oof. this thread.

some of my friend's in college were from Phoenix. they LOVED California and called it Cali. I love Young Roscoe 'I love cali in the summertime'... I was never a huge Herb Caen fan (who started the whole 'frisco' nonsense.) Clint Eastwood is a mixed bag for me, he made up the ketchup on a hot dog thing and improvised it into Dirty Harry and it became another stupid thing that people hang their hats on without any thinking.

I went to high school and college (in part) in socal (ha!) and I loved it. I spent my youth at newport beach and redondo and because of my sisters at the cool studios of the time (music) and going to all the guitar stores in the area (Red Rhodes store, Nadines, out to Santa Monica, to Steve Soest's place in the old licorice pizza in anaheim.) My grandma was neighbors with Paul Bigsby and my mom had been a homecoming queen at Beverly Hills High (her date: Richard Chamberlain) at 90, she lives the life on her beloved Balboa Island... Most of my brothers and sisters still live in the southland as do their kids. They love it. I think that is grand. It is not for me, but when we visit I still have 1000 great places to go and love.

I live on the central coast and love that, but work in the bay area. I have one brother who lives in SF and I love that city with all my heart. Contrary to bad press and over accentuating things... the luster has come off the golden state.... that is okay with me too. Being #1 all the time is kind of fascist and boring.

We spend lots of time in the sierra and while I have loved all the mtns I have lived in (Sierra Tahoe as kid, Appalachians in my 20's, Rockies in my 30's, I find the Sierra national forest my favorite as it reminds me of the lake tahoe I knew as a little boy.

People in California often forget the beauty and wonderful people of the central valley, the history and the music of all those folks... and they forget about the beauty of places like Lassen, the lost coast, the amazing Joshua Tree... and the spine of 395 that hold so many breathtaking views.

I'm fortunate to have lived in many states in the united states and to have traveled much of the world, so many amazing places and more amazing people. For me, you can call California whatever you want. I just heard a young lady pronounce cioppino CHEE OH PINTO and Jennings gave her credit, so, nicknames and pronunciations might get a little teasing but no rebuke (from me.)

The rivalry between LA and SF used to be real, but LA is now 20 million people, the bay is about half that... SF is just 500K people... They have just grown in different directions. For many years, LA didn't have NFL football, and with the Pac (8, 10, 12) defunct for the most part, the rivalry among the great universities is gone too.

But, California, like our nation, will go through rough patches, reinvent and prevail. We have seen it over and over again. Like all great places, they may get down, but they will never stay there, they'll rise and be great again... even if you call it Cali.
 

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I absolutely love Joshua Tree NP, and plan to head out there again in a month. By the way, the whole Clint Eastwood/Dirty Harry and the "never put ketchup on your hot dog" deal... I always assumed that was because they had just left the scene of someone that was shot in the groin, and when he saw his partner with ketchup on his hot dog, he blurted out that line, because of the visual. Then, for some dumb reason, it took off. Like "Dirty Harry says no ketchup on your hot dog, so if you're a real man you don't put ketchup on your hot dog" LOL!
 
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