Pro Junior IV With Weber Blue Pup...Update

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  1. Marshall Thinline

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    I waited until the speaker was broken in to post my findings. I’m really happy with the Blue Pup speaker. The brittle highs from the Jensen PR10 have been replaced by the chime I was looking for. It’s never harsh sounding. The bottom end is big and clear...I’m seriously considering getting a Blue Dog (the 12” version) for my DRRI.
    This is a quick video using it live. In use is my Gretsch Hot Rod into the Pro Junior, with a Hall Of Fame Mini reverb. The volume was on 5. It is attenuated with a Dr Z Brake Lite. (This little monster is loud!)
     
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    Sounds great! I have the Blue Pup and Silver Ten in a cab together and really enjoy the pairing.
     
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    Pro Jr's rule !
     
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    Glad it worked out for you! Let us know how 12 "Blue dog works out if you get it.
     
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    ...and I have a Blue Pup and a 10A125 in a Tremolux cab. I, too, like Weber combinations.
     
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    A couple weeks ago, I tried my two 1X10"Blue Pup cabs with my Tweed Champ. Such a beautifully chimey tone. So much so, I just ordered an 8" Blue Pup to try in it.
     
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    * At the last CMA awards I noticed a couple Pro Jr's on the back line with the big Marshall Stacks & Twins ;):)
     
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    That's interesting because the cab I mentioned is actually a 4x10 that also has a 10A125 and a 10F150--all four are 16 ohm. The speakers are individually wired, and I made a parallel cable and bought a Z-Matcher to play any two together. I usually use the two British together and the two Vintage together, but I should spend more time with the other combos as well.
     
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    That sounds good.
    Alnico or ceramic Blue Pup?
     
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    Cool. I’m no math major, but I think that’s 10 combinations of 2 speakers.
     
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    30watt Alnico with light dope...
    There is a little over 1/2” clearance.
     
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    Correct. Almost too many options. :D If I build another parallel cable and a series cable I'll be able to play all four together. So far I've been too lazy to build the additional cables.
     
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    You were smart to get the 30 watt version, I put a 15 watter in my Marshall Class 5 and it's way too bright, even with the treble rolled all the way off.
    Al
     
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    I spoke with CJ, from Weber. He suggested the thirty watt with light dope, after listening to what I was looking for.
     
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    I want to see the wiring diagram for your 10-way, 4-gang, rotary, 2-speaker combination selector switch. :lol:
     
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    I’m going to plug my DDRI into the PJ cab first. It’s possible that I may go with two 10” Pups, if I like it. Right now, the PJ is surprisingly beefier sounding than the DRRI.
     
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    So what's the verdict? Curious about this speaker.
     
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    I’ll try it later this evening... I’ll keep you posted after I put it through the test.
     
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    Wow! The Blue Pup sounds really nice with the DRRI but I wouldn’t necessarily say better than the C12K that is in the DRRI. It’s a matter of taste.
    I tested the two using my #1 guitar, a Gretsch Hot Rod with TV Jones Classic pickups.
    The Blue Pup (in the PJ cabinet):
    • Has a clearer sound
    • Chime galore but not as chunky
    • The bass is not as deep using the same setting. But you can turn the bass control up more on the amp without getting farty. It doesn’t get as deep sounding.
    • I imagine it would be a bit deeper sounding in the bigger DRRI cabinet
    • The resonant freq jumps out on the “G note” on the “A string, 10th fret”
    • Even using the rhythm pickup, it maintains a lot of clarity
    • Playing in the middle pickup selection (both pickups on) was sweet with lots of chime and harmonics
    • It is much more snappy sounding with a quicker response
    • It’s a little bit quieter than the Jensen C12K but by much
    • I imagine paired with a Weber Silver 10 (with a fuller lower end), it would sound fantastic. With the bigger DRRI cabinet it would be fat and clear with tons of chime
    • I plan on using this setup during my next band rehearsal
    The DRRI C12K:
    • Had a deeper bass response
    • Was a little louder
    • The resonant freq jumps out on the “E note” on the A string, 7th fret
    • Likes the rear pickup best
    • Nice chime with both pickups on, but not as clear sounding
    • The sound is very familiar, not necessarily better
    • Sounds more chunky with less chime
    I’m very tempted to replace the Jensen C12K with a Blue Pup and Silver 10. I can see it happening soon, actually...
     
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