Princeton tonemaster

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  1. popthree

    popthree Poster Extraordinaire

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    Is this happening?
     
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    You realize it would weigh like,

    7.18 lbs?


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    Probably more like 18#
     
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    The Princeton is already light and small, and probably not a huge seller as is. And the TM Deluxe already weighs nothing (recognize the different tones, sure). I doubt there is much of a market for that.
     
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    34# mid weight
     
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    I just don’t see a purpose for it, what with the power scaling on the Deluxe, and the weight of it. And the 12” speaker.
     
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    I think a more logical evolution of the series would be mid-size and big tweeds. Tonemaster tweed Twins, 59 Bassmans, 57 Pro/Super/Bandmasters would make a lot of sense.
     
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    It would be cool for them to do the Bassman next.

    I was also wondering if Fender would consider doing Tonemaster amp heads. Maybe not if their sound is closely tied to the choice of speaker(s).
     
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    Agree 100%. I would have bet money that the 59 Tweed Bassman would have been the next Tonemaster offering before the Super Reverb came out. Now that they’ve got the BF line so well represented, tweeds seem like the logical next step.
     
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    A Blackface Tonemaster Bassman would be great for Bass players. Today there are no Fender Bass amps, which look like the original ones from the 50s, 60s and 70s(except the Tweed Bassman)
     
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    That is exactly how I see it at the moment, too. If I have an attenuator on a Twin Reverb, don't I already have the clean tone of a Princeton at low volumes???
     
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    i'm sure you guys are probably right about it being unlikely. i guess my use case for one is a minority position.

    its not just the light weight that attracts me to the idea of a TM. i love the layout of the controls for fender amps. i also LOVE the near zero noise floor TM's offer. a tube princeton doesn't have that low of a noise floor. another nice thing about a PRTM would be the lower price of admission. i'm guessing it would retail for about 699. for a home player like myself, that's a great price point.
     
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    I’m wondering if they’ll ever make a unit with an IR loader instead of speaker cab. Cheaper than making a full amp and I’m sure lots of people would be interested in it for studio use.
     
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    True, but the biggest advantages of the TM are all about gigging, as I see it - the line out and the light weight. A home player who isn't lugging an amp up and down stairs all the time has a lot of good options at $700.

    PS you might want to check out the Quilter Aviator Cub, it's 21 lb, has headphone out and 1/8" input for practice, sounds great (to me, in the one time I tried it), and is $649.
     
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    I prefer amps with front controls so the quilter is a no go. Plus I want trem and dripping fender verb. A used DRTM is probably in my future if a PRTM doesn't materialize.
     
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    Check out the 1st or 2nd gen Quilter Aviator 1x8. I've had the 2nd gen 'Gold' model for years and it's the amp I drag out of the house. It's 100 watts x 2 channels, gets as loud as you need, has a two-knob reverb that sounds really good, and it weighs only 21 lbs. These are out of production, but you can find them 2nd hand. They are built like tanks.

    I also have had a PRRI for years and it stays home. So I can appreciate the Princeton for what it is, but for portability and killer sound that is close enough to the Princeton to be a wash, the Quilter goes with me when I play out.

     
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    I didn't even realize they had come out with the Super.

    Just looked at the specs, it weighs 36 pounds. Wow :eek:
     
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    I'm sure it's a nice amp but I think I'll prefer a fender... And I don't see tremolo on that face.
     
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    It's like what happened to Honda with the Element--every one that they built could've been a CRV, and moved off the lot more quickly and at a higher price. The economies of scale probably just don't add up, but I guess we'll see.
     
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    So much of these amps are the processing that goes into the Tremolo and Reverb, I wonder if they will do an amp that doesn't have those features?

    Isn't the Super already pretty close to a Bassman?
     
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