Price of new guitars are actually less expensive than they were back in the day

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  1. instroverbs

    instroverbs TDPRI Member

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    I don’t understand why people are always complaining about the price of new guitars. They say that they are overpriced and they wouldn’t buy a new Strat or telecaster because they are overpriced and they think custom shop is way overpriced. But if you do simple calculations with inflation you see that from the very beginning from the first telecaster on that in today’s money the average Fender guitar listed in the two thousand dollars range. For example a Strat in 1965 cost $289.50 whereas in today’s money that is $2331.50 The same goes for amps people say $2000 is too much to pay for an amp but you would’ve paid about the same amount in 1950s or 60s dollars as you would today. If anything guitars have gotten cheaper (less expensive)as well as amps
     
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    Welcome Sir,,, you don't work for Fender by chance:);)
     
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    Not at all
     
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    I have just been reading a lot of books lately on Fender especially the stratocaster chronicles and looking at the prices it made me realize that people are way off in saying that guitars today are overpriceD. If they are saying they’re overpriced compared to the past they are wrong; they are comparable if not less expensive. If they are saying they are overpriced because they can’t afford it, that’s an entirely different situation.
     
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    I’m just going to run to the kitchen to grab some popcorn. This ought to be a fairly interesting exchange.

    As far as I’m concerned, yes most guitars seem to be less costly than they were back in the day once you do the conversion, especially with all of the entry level lines. I’d say the quality of today’s instruments is much better too.

    I don’t see the reason why a production line 1956 Les Paul Goldtop VOS Reissue is $5,600 though. That seems excessive for a tried and true formula. I’d expect to see those listed at half that price.
     
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    I agree with you that that is overpriced.
     
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    I dont really get how Gibson can price their guitars for so much! but its still so expensive used! but people buy them at that price, so theres that, while its overpriced for me because I cannot afford it! LOL
     
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    I’ve thought this all along. Some people have problems converting with inflation or just accepting the fact that it isn’t 1959 anymore.
     
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    They aren’t any more expensive than Fender guitars. Compare apples to apples.
     
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    I can afford a Fender US guitar.. up to American Originals.. I cant afford anything higher than that..

    If Im buying a Les Paul Standard 50's, Im already priced out... that is if we're talking new guitars.. and I'm in Australia, so theres that as well..

    but okay,

    1950's Fender price vs 2019 Fender price including inflation, then I guess the op has a point
     
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    Generally speaking the vast majority of people are economically illiterate.
    That's why populism is so strong all over the world.
    People just want to avoid facts,figures and reality.
     
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    I have thought this all along too, but then again, I thought they were too expensive back in the day as well. I think the difference now is that the less expensive guitars are built way better than the less expensive guitars of lore.

    I can sort of understand the cost of a new Gibby acoustic or semi-acoustic, but a new solidbody electric for those prices seems absurd.
     
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    Some people buy things just because they're expensive. Must be for bragging rights.

    (says me who is gassing for a custom shop tele or strat - but at least I'll play it every day)
     
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    As I posted earlier, the price for a 1956 Les Paul Goldtop VOS Reissue is $5,600 CAD at Long & McQuade ($4,700 US at Sweetwater). That’s a production line guitar. It’s a nice production line guitar but it’s not a custom shop build. For that kind of money, if I were going to spend it with Fender, I’d be looking at a Fender Custom Shop guitar or a really good Artist Series and an amp to go with it. I’m not sure how any more apples to apples you can get.
     
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    A quick google shows:

    American professional tele $1450

    Les Paul Standard $2399
     
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    I can’t buy a guitar in 1950.
    $2000 is still way too expensive for a slab of wood and a couple of knobs
     
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    I’m not hearing people complain that guitars are more expensive than they were back in the day, whenever that was.
    Most of what I hear is just the opposite, unless you’re talking about Gibson specifically.
    An Epiphone Les Paul is cheaper than a Gibson Les Paul was circa 1960’s.
    Most think that you can get more guitar for your money now than ever before.
    Now Gibson, who’s pricing is all over the place just keeps raising prices without any corresponding rise in quality or features.
    Fender USA, Fender Mexico, Fender Asia, all make the same models, Tele’s and Strat’s. I’m not sure I understand their strategy or pricing.
     
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    People buy differently now, when the iconic guitars were new, most families had( if they were fortunate) one car, one phone, one TV,( with free OTA programming) used much less electricity( little or no AC, fewer lights etc.) and most players had one maybe two guitars .

    Most “ name” electric guitars were bought by working adult players..If you were solid on three or four chords you could find a regular PAYING gig in even small towns.

    Now money goes for other things, and comes from other sources; the average ‘round the house player has or desires multiple guitars and amps.. the perception is things are more expensive
    ( and many things are) but guitars are for the most part no more or even less expensive.

    Remember BITD list or list+ 10% ( for set up etc.) was common, there was certainly no heavy discounting, open box ,scratch & dent and there were no playable budget versions of “professional” guitars, there were also no ( or few) credit cards.. a name guitar was a major purchase often requiring a bank loan that people planned for; often for years. Very few people could walk in to a music store, and walk out w/ a name brand guitar 15 min later as is often done now.
     
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    Well if you go back to the 50s or 60s, yes most guitars would he more expensive.
    If you go back 10 years you will see Fender guitars have far outpaced inflation and they are much more expensive.
     
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    No people aren't economically illiterate,
    I know what I could walk into Guitar Center 10-15 years ago and buy and what I can buy now.
     
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