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  1. guitarbuilder

    guitarbuilder Telefied Ad Free Member

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    I wanted to make a larger version of my last build which was my interpretation of a Vox Shadow. I really liked the way it came out, but realistically it's a small beginner guitar like many others from the 1960's. I also wanted to modify some of the details which I thought could be improved. Here is the original thread.

    https://www.tdpri.com/threads/1963-vox-shadow-inspired-budget-build.952604/


    I decided after the fact that the peghead could be shortened up and given a bit more interest. I wanted a switch in there. I wanted a real bridge, but not a Gibson tunematic copy. I wanted a thicker and larger body. I kept the Gibson scale. The body went from 1-1/16 thick to 1-1/2" thick. The body was increased in area proportionally to the increase from a 14 fret joint to a 16 fret joint. Now it's more in line with what I kind of like in a single cutaway guitar.

    This is what materialized.

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    The guitar with its parts.

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    The body:

    I generated the toolpath for a 1/2" diameter straight bit. The stepover for the bit is .25 and about .20 deep. The lines represent the center of the cutter and its path around the wood. I glued up a body blank and clamped it down to the X carve today and ran the program that I generated and edited. I decided to check and see how long it would take to cut in 3D and it turned out to be about 3 times as long as 2.5 D.


    The 3D model of the body:
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    The toolpath for the x carve router

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    The control cavity gets cut first.

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    Next came the perimeter cuts. I tried something a bit different this time. I decided to make the rough perimeter cut leaving about 1/16" more than normal.
    This would allow a second and final finish cut to remove less material and hopefully leave a cleaner surface.



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    Pickups and switch cavities were next up.


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    The neck cavity was last.


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    And finally when all the routs were done, I went back to 0,0,0 and ran the finish perimeter program. You can see it trimming out about 1/16".

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    Lastly for today, I use a laminate trimmer with a 3/8 flush trim bit inside the 1/2" perimeter groove to cut it out of the waste. I left about 1/16" of wood holding it on. This whole body routing and cutting process took 40 minutes from start to finish. This is black willow wood. Now too common commercially these days. It was popular as a wood shop class wood back when wood shop class was a curriculum and people used machine tools to do work.


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  10. backporchmusic

    backporchmusic Friend of Leo's

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    Cool and informative.
     
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    Whats for pickups?
     
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    Ripthorn Friend of Leo's

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    You still liking that XCarve for guitar work? And it looks like Rhino for the 3D?
     
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    The Xcarve has been improved by some upgrades this past year. I put on 9mm belts and pulleys, Y axis stiffeners and risers, and a cnc4newbies aluminum Z axis. The results are as good as my K2 is now. I've been using Rhino for about 15 years now and choose to just stay with it. I have Rhino 5.0. The Grbl power isn't mach3 but certainly does what I want it to do, just with a couple more steps.


    https://www.rhino3d.com/

    https://www.inventables.com/technologies/x-carve

    https://cnc4newbie.com/

    https://www.tbdcnc.com/

    https://openbuildspartstore.com/pulleys-belts/
     
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  15. crazydave911

    crazydave911 Doctor of Teleocity

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    I'm liking these more and more,though I never get to hear 'em LOL
     
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    Sounds like a guitar.... Not as straty but single coils probably like a '59 melody maker in comparison. I don't even have an amp sitting here..so it's just unplugged noodling.
     
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    Cool stuff once again Marty!
    Nice to see willow wood getting some love, I still have a piece of red willow waiting to turn into a body somewhere in a friend's garage (and I realize the last part of this sentence sounds...erm...somehow criminal). Is this one going to be painted as well? It would look handsome in a natural finish.
     
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    :eek::eek::eek:, no amp? Geeez,my MM will have single coils but not the ratty things they came with ;)
     
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    I like the overall design of this body. Very nice and great you could scale it up to "adult" status :D

    I'm very thankful for having my CNC to do this stuff, especially now that I'm starting to do some "personalized design" for some next builds. Being able to completely visualize something is incredibly powerful, both for the things I make for others in my business as well as with this little guitar building side-hobby for my own enjoyment. I sure hope that folks understand that your thread title is tongue-in-cheek...those of us that use CNC know that there's a whole lot of work that happens before that proverbial button push!! (and your screen scrapes above clearly show that)
     
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    I was wondering what kind of wood that was. It kind of looked like poplar in the earlier pictures. Really nice looking design Marty!
     
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