Please help me decide between these two Tele Vintera

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For players who want the style and sound of Fender’s classic years, we created the Vintera® ‘70s Telecaster®. Equipped with the coveted features that defined the decade—including period-accurate neck profile and playing feel—this guitar has all of the articulation and punch that made the Telecaster a legend.

A pair of Custom Shop “Twisted” Tele® Pickups deliver hot high-output Telecaster tone with a dash of Strat® chime. The Vintage "C”-shaped neck has a 7.25”-radius fingerboard with 21 vintage-style frets for classic feel. A vintage-style Tele® bridge with three slotted steel barrel saddles gives this Telecaster its characteristic twang, while “F”-stamped tuning machines offer period-correct aesthetics, classic feel and rock-solid tuning stability. Other features include four-bolt neck plate with "F" logo, chrome hardware and vintage-style strap buttons. Includes deluxe gig bag.

Specification
Body Alder
Neck Maple
Neck Shape Vintage "C"
Fingerboard Pau Ferro
Scale 25.5"
Radius 7.25"
Frets 21 Vintage
Nut Synthetic Bone
Nut Width 1.650"
Pickups Custom Shop Twisted Tele® Single-Coil Set
Controls Master Volume, Master Tone, 3-Way Switch
Bridge 3-Saddle Vintage-Style Tele® with Slotted Steel Saddles
Tuners Fender® Vintage "F" Stamped

They are out there, but they are an FSR.
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Well whaddya know? I stand corrected. Excellent detective work, Fendereedo.

In that case, I double down on #1. I'm a big fan of the Twisted Tele pickups.

Thanks @Fendereedo - so that FSR was done for a UK dealer, or was it more widely available in Europe? It was never sold here in the USA.

With FSRs all bets are off - you've got to find the info from the dealer or look up a serial number, Fender never posts dealer-spec FSRs on their website.
 

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I own the 50s modified and previously, the 60s modified. I'm a maple guy deep down hence why I swapped out the 60s.

Fundamentally it's preference. Get the green guitar if you want a flatter radius and more switching options. Get the blue guitar if you want a vintage radius and the custom shop pickups.

Both are excellent quality and value for the money*

*a return policy is good insurance.
 

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Thanks @Fendereedo - so that FSR was done for a UK dealer, or was it more widely available in Europe? It was never sold here in the USA.

With FSRs all bets are off - you've got to find the info from the dealer or look up a serial number, Fender never posts dealer-spec FSRs on their website.
Not sure if it was a UK only FSR. Sometimes they are, but I don't know how long they've been around. I might order one at the weekend.
 

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Both look like amazing guitars - not sure how to choose for you but I think I’d be going for the 70s. I’ve got Fender Classic Series MIM Teles and Strats and I think they’re just great 🙂
 

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Hey there, good people. So I have two Telecasters in mind. Take a look at this first one, the Fender Limited Edition Vintera 70s:

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There is almost nothing about this guitar on the internet. It is no longer on the Fender lineup. As the name says, it is a limited edition. From what I see the special difference between it and the other Vinteras are the Custom Shop "Twisted" Tele single-coil pickups (of which I heard many compliments). Apart from that there are the vintage hardware, 7.25" fingerboar radius, vintage frets, etc., about the same as the traditional Vinteras.

The price is also the same as the Vinteras that are not "Limited Edition" (1,100.00 USD).

I liked it a lot for being a dark scale (Pau Ferro), which is my preference over maple, and also the lake placid blue body. But I wonder why there's nothing about this guitar out there. It must have gone out of production pretty quickly. Is it because of the lack of desirability by Fender of the 70s? On the other hand, limited editions are just that: produced over a short period and in small quantities. What do you guys think?


Now the other guitar, the Vintera 60s Modified:

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This one is more unanimous, people say it is the substitute for the beloved Baja Tele. Nice Seafom Green, nice Pau Ferro. Yes, I know about the neck differences, frets, etc. Playability is different but believe me, it is not the main factor of my choice, I adapt very well to different guitars and like both neck profiles.
I'd rather go for this Modified Vintera since there is a certain unanimity regarding its quality, but at the same time I think... 1,373.00 USD for a miM guitar, I don't know...

Let me clarify: I have absolutely nothing against the nationality in which the instruments are made. For example, the problems I've personally seen with some Gibsons I've held in my hand are frightening. Made in USA on headstock means nothing to me after that.
But my point is, unfortunately Mex guitars do not give people the same perception of value as those made in the USA (this makes sense for a possible future resale, in case I needed it). So I'm in doubt if it's worth paying all that money for a miM (that's all).


Important notes: I live in Qatar, these guitars would be purchased online from a store called Fnac. It is a large retail chain that sells electronics and a bunch of other stuff (among them some musical instruments). They don't have these guitars in showroom in any of their 3 branches here in Doha (capital of Qatar), only in their warehouse. That is, I would buy online. But being in the same city it would facilitate a possible return. They only have one peace of each.


Another note: I have converted the QAR amounts to USD for better understanding. So remembering:

Fender Limited Edition Vintera 70s, the unknown guitar with Twisted pups in lake placid blue: 1,100.00 USD

Vintera 60s Modified in Seafom Green, called by some people the new Baja: 1,373.00 USD

One las note: none of them comes with any gig bag.


I really appreciate it if you guys can give me a light on this subject.
Gotta say I like the lake placid blue. I own a MIM special edition. The only thing that made it special edition was that Fender painted it a custom color for Chicago Music Exchange.
 

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Welcome to the forum!
Really nice Teles there.
I like the color of the LPB one better, but anymore I won't buy a guitar with anything smaller than a 9.5r neck.
If that does not matter to you, I would take #1.
I'm wondering how much are MIA Fenders there?

Nice to have choices. good luck
Kush, some instruments here in Qatar cost a little less than direct dollar conversion. For example, an American Performer Telecaster costs 5,600.00 QAR (that would be 1,538.00 USD, slightly cheaper than the price sold in the USA by Sweetwater).

The Gibson SG Special with p90 (the guitar I was interested in before the Tele) costs 5,500.00 QAR (would be 1,538.00 USD, so that is 72$ cheaper than the official price of this guitar in USA).

But others are more expensive (don't know exactly why). For example, an instrument from the American Professional II series costs approximately 8,000.00 QAR, which is equivalent to 2,200.00 US.

But this is a bad and misleading way of understanding the cost of things (converting currencies directly).
 
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I like the green over the blue, but the neck seems darker Pau ferro on the blue.
I hate how pale fenders mint guards are, my surf green tele, my lpb mustang, and orange duosonic all had the stock guards removed, and only the tele got mint back on it (carved from a blank that was actually mint green in color).

My question is (keep in mind I have 0 idea about shipping to that part of the world, I've only got acquaintances from Jordan...) if you're reluctant to spend that on a new mim fender, have you considered (typically higher craftsmanship) Japanese fenders, or even a used US one?
US standards from '88 to the middle 90s are some of the most consistently great stock guitars I've come across. They typically go for a little less than what those are priced at, but again, I can't speak to shipping. Japanese fenders stand out in 2 ways: they're made to a very high quality standard and the pickups aren't always great sounding.
If you order from Japanese sellers, you can get guitars that are only offered for sale in the Japanese domestic market, which have been appreciating in value.

Just curious, since you had concerns about the $$ amount on mim guitars. Vintura series models with issues I've encountered are NOT the regular teles. The Bigsby tele wasn't great for the $$, and some folks have had loads of trouble with the jags, but the normal teles are great guitars, just not cheap anymore.
I understand your point, you're right. But I don't know, just thinking about chasing a guitar from such a decade, with such specifications, investigate the autenticity, coming from such a place, and studying the best way to bring it here, etc...I'll be honest, it's more laziness than anything else.

But you're totally right, it's the right way to do things. I was concerned about the price of the Vintera 60s modified (The Seafom Green), but the price of the Vintera 70s Limited Edition is acceptable for me (considering the crazy world nowadays).
 

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. FYI, all Vintera guitars SHOULD come with a gig bag, either that, or the retailer is removing them from the box, and selling them separately. In which case I would buy elsewhere. 😡
I totally agree. Let's see, who knows, maybe the attendant made a mistake. I believe the bag comes with the guitar in the box.
 

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Wow, this has become so detailed in such a short time. Back to basics. You really need the best guitar for the money. You seem to have played in Vintera, and FSRs, and thjerefore the Performers AND made-in-Japan models.

1. The issue with MIJ is all those basswood models - don't like those as I had one and it dented SO easily. Alder ones are great = well worth consideration.
2. Performer - these are basically older USA models rolled out alongside newer ProIIs. Solid guitar with big frets and Yosemite pups. Solid USA quality model and upgradeable = Performer
3. FSRs are just a normal model range; just in unusual colors - if you are a player this isn't an issue - but if you like looks this might be a consideration. Unusual colour = FSR
4. Vintera - MIM and original spec models. These are the only original spec models in this list - so if you want an old spec model then it has to be = Vintera.

Undecided? - get the Performer and upgrade the pickups. A keeper.
 

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Easy choice. If you don't take the dark green one, I will. That looks great.
 
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Folks, I bought the guitar (70s Limited Edition) and it just came to me. Just two words: gorgeous and gorgeous.

Seriously, good admins, allow me to make a new special topic with the photos, it deserves.

Thank you guys very much for your participation helping me in the decision. I feel like I couldn't have made a better choice, I'm very happy.
 
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