Playing bass and guitar lines on one same guitar at the same time?

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  1. littlebadboy

    littlebadboy Tele-Afflicted

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    Well... I'm not the first, but I just made my own!

    Two years ago, I had an idea of making a guitar play bass lines at the same time so I can jam with my son who was learning to play drums at the time. It was boring jamming without a bass player. I came up with a rough first version of it early last year. I'm not really an electronic person but through another forum friend'st ech advice, we have come up with a 2nd and final version.

    I now call the guitar, "Gemini".

    Bass sound is on the left channel, guitar is on right channel.


    The guitar is a Yamaha EG112C2.
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    It has 2 circuits. The first circuit is for the normal guitar with its own volume pot. It has no tone control and goes to the output jack. It has a GM Railbucker bridge and a Fleor single coil sized rail humbucker with 5-way switching. The second circuit is for the middle pickup which was replaced with a 2-pole pickup that only picks up the 5th and 6th strings. It also has its own volume pot with no tone control and also goes to its own output jack. The signal is being fed to a Digitech Drop to convert it to a lower octave sound to simulate a bass.

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    Gear used:
    Boss GT-100 for guitar effects
    Digitech Drop as octave pedal
    Behringer BDI21 Bass Amp Modeler
    Behringer UMC204HD interface

    DAW: Audacity

    The gear:
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    It has crappy tuners right now. I would like to change it in the future. I am looking at changing the nut also.

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    Thanks for viewing!
     
  2. littlebadboy

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    After posting my first video demo above, I had requests to make another demo isolating the bass sound. So, here we go! Enjoy!

     
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  3. AAT65

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    Nicely done! Pretty convincing bass sound.
    I see you also have a Pitch-Key there for when you need to go extra low — I have one on one of my guitars for our occasional Drop-D tunes.
     
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    Thank you, sir!

    Yep, drop D is my default tuning on all my guitars. On this guitar, I wanted it to have an easy way to switch back to standard E as I see that this guitar may be played on by other people too. The pitch-key was the easiest, non-intrusive, and cheapest way. I really like it.
     
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  5. schmee

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    I've wondered about doing something like that. I'm not much good at jazz or Chet techniques, if I was I would probably think "what's the point of all the basslines electronics really" But those guys dont just do parallel bass lines. This is cool though...

    SO you did the middle pickup to try to isolate the low notes better than if you just used a low octave device?
     
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    then there's Charlie Hunter!

     
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    Yes. I tried Boss OC-3 because it has the function of isolating the 5th and 6th string or whatever range you want. But, it didn't track really well. So, I just thought of having the guitar split the signals itself and search for a good octave pedal. Apparently, I'm not the first. Local H, an Illinois band duo does a similar set up. Scott (guitarist) uses a half of a real bass pickup on his guitar.

     
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    carter picking and some other country and folk styles can split the difference.
     
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    I am a bass player as well so I inherently always use bass fills on my guitars as i am chording a stylistic thing i do .
     
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    Ready, Set, Shango! Is about as good as guitar and bass together on one guitar can sound.
     
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    Cool beans. When I first heard the full mix I couldn't really hear the bass at all. Maybe this mix sounds more balanced with better speakers....
     
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    What does this “pitch-key” thing do?

    Is that what’s on the face of the headstock on the low E?

    Is it like a hipshot or is it more versatile?
     
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    Cool project! I like the solution for a two string pickup.

    I put a P-bass pickup on a Strat-Like-Object, I was testing a Jazzmaster neck pickup and while cutting the pickguard thought why not experiment with the P-bass and I found on regular guitar the P-bass is really quite twangy. I was surprised. I expected darker tones but I guess the true bass guitar is so low they need to enhance the the brightness a lot to get it to 'cut through the mix'...

    Imagine how much lower the band drama is with the two person combo bands:
    Royal Blood
    White Stripes
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    Hey thanks!

    Add "Local H" to your list and I believe you have the same set up using a p-bass pickup.

     
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    Yes, the knob on the headstock is a pitch-key. It works like a hipshot but it's a lot cheaper and non-intrusive & less bulky.

     
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    Thanks!

    Have you checked out the part 2 video?

     
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    Ingenious design and very convincing based sound. Certainly a simplified solution. I too was going to suggest checking out Charlie Hunter, but KC beat me to it. Some of his stuff is ridiculous.
     
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