Nogoodnamesleft
Friend of Leo's
Not without special dispensation from the Pope.
Pissed At Work - Microsoft Office
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Trenchant63
Friend of Leo's
I have had zero issues with my personal or work M365. But I don’t have a ton of engineered documents.
Ben Harmless
Poster Extraordinaire
I currently work for one of the best-respected healthcare organizations on the planet, having recently jumped ship from it's direct local competitor. On the one hand, a I'm happy to see how much they actually USE the available technology, but on the other, MS makes some serious garbage, don't they? I mean, our world-class IT department can maintain all of this, but if MS keeps moving things around their Office suite, and continuously tries to integrate all of their software to the point where I'm pretty sure I took a video call with PowerPoint yesterday, then how is that not breaking your own products.
And SharePoint? Which is somehow distinct but not distinct from OneDrive? No thank you. I had an easier time organizing and presenting information to people when I was editing straight HTML in 1996. This is not to mention that integration of cloud drives onto my desktop is inconsistent and messy at best.
My old employer used Google office tools for a little while before they eventually abandoned them for MS nonsense. Google does tend to break and abandon its stuff, but it was at very least more consistent and easier to use for general work and collaboration.
And SharePoint? Which is somehow distinct but not distinct from OneDrive? No thank you. I had an easier time organizing and presenting information to people when I was editing straight HTML in 1996. This is not to mention that integration of cloud drives onto my desktop is inconsistent and messy at best.
My old employer used Google office tools for a little while before they eventually abandoned them for MS nonsense. Google does tend to break and abandon its stuff, but it was at very least more consistent and easier to use for general work and collaboration.
I have our folks have the option to run 365 in the cloud or still download the apps and install them... the updates still run, but they don't wipe anything out as 365 doesn't have access to the individual settings... look on your 365 login page and see if down at the bottom the option to download and install the apps is there.. if so, problem solved.. you can be mad at AI or your mother in law's dog.
Skyhook
Friend of Leo's
100% agreed.
My uncle told me: "Unix is user friendly. It's just very particular about who
its friends are". Linux is more of a good acquaintance to me.
My archive server runs it as does my party-laptop who's main purpose
is to play music while showing a random slideshow as a screensaver.
I've even taught a "Linux for beginners" -course at Uni for a few years,
so it's even been a monetarily fruitful acquaintance. BUT... It’s still
a bit far from the "It just works" -level some others can provide.
And no... the indignant "It totally works! You just have to [argument killer]
first!" -defense is not helping your case at all.
The closest I've seen is a Ubuntu version called Super OS which had
all media codecs bundled into the distro.
Sure... kinda... once you reach a certain plateau on the learning curve.
To download, install and use: Yes.
For a company which has to make technologically impared troglodytes
who think C:\Windows\users\dumbphuqe is their homepage, use Linux
productively it might be a training and re-training and damage control
bill they just don't want to pay.
We have zero access to anything. The company installs on our local machines, and the floggings will continue until we like it. They control every detail, and the flogging will continue until we like it. They dictate our settings and how we use the tools, and the flogging will continue until we like it.
Maybe this is more a company issue than Microsoft? I still don't like Microsoft or Windows though.
And Teams. OMG Teams. What a steaming pile. Every meeting I am on - EVERY. SINGLE. ONE. - someone cannot come off of mute and needs to exit the meeting, restart teams (log out and log back into the app sometime) then rejoin before they can speak or be heard. Given that most BlueTooth devices are banned by the company, and only certain headsets are allowed, this makes things more difficult.
Just don't plug in a USB drive. That is a direct line to HR. Or any other USB device for that matter. HR is contacted, and they contact your manager before processing the removal of you from your job.
that sounds like your workplace is inhumanely managed. I have zero complaints about MS Office or 365. Teamz is not our default meeting system (we don't support it, but allow it) We have great luck with Zoom...
I'd bet your company is more the problem than the 'stuff'.
I am really considering converting my wife to Linux. I use Linux Mint - any Windows user can figure out Cinnamon quickly.
She surfs the web, uses a browser for Email, edits pictures, and does an occasional LibreOffice doc. That use case is easily covered by Mint / Linux. Yeah, there are the occasional driver issues and stuff, but I can get that resolved easily, and in less time than I spend restoring her defaults after an update.
There is probably a way to prevent Windows 11 from resetting defaults - like OneDrive ALWAYS turns on after an update, and she uses a local account (not an MS cloud account) to log in. Then her default browser keeps getting set back to Edge - sometimes only for certain links - but it's irritating.
I want to convert her to use Brave, but she wants to stay with Chrome. As soon as UBlock Origin stops working, I think I will finally take that last step.
elpico
Tele-Afflicted
You shouldn't get pissed at work. You might hit the cup with your mouse and spill your drink.
(but also, F*** Microsoft. They've had HOW many years to learn how to make software that doesn't suck?? It feels intentional at this point)
(but also, F*** Microsoft. They've had HOW many years to learn how to make software that doesn't suck?? It feels intentional at this point)
Zepfan
Doctor of Teleocity
I used to be a mechanic and loved it til a-hole engineers put computers in cars turning 1 problem into 10 possible problems. After a year of that joy, I went back to welding.
Today's cars do run great and get great MPG, til they don't. Then the diagnosis goes thru the roof. I know let make a computer to diagnose the problem. First we have to tell it which car to diagnose. What if the diagnostic computer goes down?
A endless PITA!
Today's cars do run great and get great MPG, til they don't. Then the diagnosis goes thru the roof. I know let make a computer to diagnose the problem. First we have to tell it which car to diagnose. What if the diagnostic computer goes down?
A endless PITA!
City Sirens
Tele-Meister
Wait until your company learns about OneDrive...
Android..... oh my.Microsoft just keeps getting worse and worse. The ironic thing is, they make great apps for Android
Yes, my slice of the enterprise and tiny business I own with a 5 seat license have none of those problems. My being ornery is more about having to spend the evening with my brother in law.
Cars have had computers since either side of 1970, and between reliability and safety, I won't depend on the old crap except for our hobby Model A Ford. I'm also influenced by losing a loved one not his fault in a vehicle with poor crash ratings.I used to be a mechanic and loved it til a-hole engineers put computers in cars turning 1 problem into 10 possible problems. After a year of that joy, I went back to welding.
Today's cars do run great and get great MPG, til they don't. Then the diagnosis goes thru the roof. I know let make a computer to diagnose the problem. First we have to tell it which car to diagnose. What if the diagnostic computer goes down?
A endless PITA!
Your evidence for that seeming to be willful ignorance? This stuff works fine for hundreds of millions and gets better. Our data supports Microsoft, Google and Apple getting better.Microsoft just keeps getting worse and worse. The ironic thing is, they make great apps for Android
My MDM is a split Android and Apple mobile. If you like the Android apps, you can get same code base with better battery life, management, longer life cycle and far superior security if you switch to an iPhone.
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Bob Womack
Friend of Leo's
Teams is a virus. During COVID the company decided to implement it.
One: I work on a DAW and don't want a system-comprehensive software slowing it down. I especially don't want to be responsible to keep it open at all times and don't want it's demanding pop-up interruptions that won't let you exit until you act upon them.
Two: I work on deadlines and the silly program kept locking up my machine, threatening the deadline or making them impossible to achieve.
Three: None of the "creatives understands basics like creating TEAMS work groups including everyone (me) who will be working on their product.
Four: Even before TEAMS, I work on twenty different servers and there are established protocols for delivery of product to and from me. The creatives began spontaneously substituting their TEAM delivery systems for the established locations (easier for them) for product and at the same time began lapsing all the standards we have. Since no-one remembers to include me in their work groups, I can't get to the materials to start the session. I spent entire sessions trying and failing to get my hands on the material. Mass confusion ensued.
With my boss' agreement, I deleted TEAMS entirely and sent out a broadcast email telling everyone who worked with me to deliver by the previously agreed upon standards and to the agreed upon server locations and use email and/or the studio telephone line to liaise for my services, just as they had before.
Revolutionary. And it worked. And everyone seems to like it.
Bob
One: I work on a DAW and don't want a system-comprehensive software slowing it down. I especially don't want to be responsible to keep it open at all times and don't want it's demanding pop-up interruptions that won't let you exit until you act upon them.
Two: I work on deadlines and the silly program kept locking up my machine, threatening the deadline or making them impossible to achieve.
Three: None of the "creatives understands basics like creating TEAMS work groups including everyone (me) who will be working on their product.
Four: Even before TEAMS, I work on twenty different servers and there are established protocols for delivery of product to and from me. The creatives began spontaneously substituting their TEAM delivery systems for the established locations (easier for them) for product and at the same time began lapsing all the standards we have. Since no-one remembers to include me in their work groups, I can't get to the materials to start the session. I spent entire sessions trying and failing to get my hands on the material. Mass confusion ensued.
With my boss' agreement, I deleted TEAMS entirely and sent out a broadcast email telling everyone who worked with me to deliver by the previously agreed upon standards and to the agreed upon server locations and use email and/or the studio telephone line to liaise for my services, just as they had before.
Revolutionary. And it worked. And everyone seems to like it.
Bob
Telekat 100
Tele-Afflicted
Wrong end.
AliceAngelTele
Tele-Afflicted
Alla this makes standing in front of 21 squirrelly 8th graders sound like a good deal, so thanks everybody!
