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Discussion in 'Amp Central Station' started by Cadillac_Mike, Jan 19, 2021.
If you can tell the difference, your distortion pedal is too low
Imo particle cabs sound better than pine but are subject to moisture & humidity as in swelling & deteriorating . For longevity as in a combo amp pine will last decades. Weight difference? I never really noticed tbh. Price difference yes.
Pls, can you specify “chime”?
I was thinking about changing to pine cab in my BJ too..
Jangle with a side of gravy.
If I had my drothers, and a little more muscle I would do
the early boogie thing, with tongue/groove. Mahogany I think.
I own two Dan Armstrong pine speaker cabinets. Light, easy to carry, sound great. The Cerwin Vega speakers are wonderful.
It's more important to design the size of the box to the driver performance than the materials of the box.
Most amps/cabinets are designed by: "that looks about the right size to command presence on stage and make the buyer give us more profits" than by using actual math... Open backed cabinets completely short circuit good cabinet design.
The whole wood vs particle board comes down to "what makes our product appear more premium so we can get those sweet sweet profits!" There is not much more thought in there than that. But you can use math for a better design if you are building.
dig around on this site or find similar calculators
Or just have some fun:
The difference is that plywood is stronger than particle board. Will last longer. Plywood is physically better for longevity. I don't know which one sounds better? I'd rather have something built to last. Keep on pickin!
It depends on the application/amp...pine for low watt tweeds, mfd for higher gain. Also the baffle material, design and baffle attachment are a significant factor. Here's 3/4" qtr sawn fir with 1/2" ply braced floating baffle...for low watt tweed
Cab Front by wrathfuldeity posted May 3, 2020 at 2:06 PM
My neck pickup was a bit dark n muddy, so I changed the cab material from mdf to pine and it solved my problem.
Particle board is much heavier than pine or birch plywood when used to make the same sized cabinet. Fasteners and construction techniques are different. Particle board is generally cheaper for the manufacturer.
For those who live and play in high-moisture environments like South Florida or NOLA, getting a particle board cabinet wet is a problem.
Particle board may not survive being dropped as well as pine or birch, depending upon the quality of construction.
Very true in my experience. I use (multiple) calculators when I design a box for a particular speaker. I realize some will say that is overkill, but I figure.. 'better safe than sorry'.
My 1968 Deluxe is pine. It’s considerably lighter than my ‘65 Reissue.
Dovetails, and padauk. Substantially heavier than mahogany. I'm not sure the hardwood cab here contributes much of anything to the sound.
Which is one reason those Boogies can barely float in mercury. That and the oversized output transformer.
They're massive. I have a Mk IIB with all the trimmings sitting right next to me. It's a beast.
I recently bought an Orange 35rt. The smell of the glue from the MDF was overpowering. Back it went.
That was one reason that I upsized to huge OTs in my modified Valve Juniors (Hammond 125ESE in both). Love that big iron sound.