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Phil Spector (12/26/1939 - 01/16/2021)

Discussion in 'Bad Dog Cafe' started by djh22, Jan 17, 2021.

  1. mindlobster

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    Agree, the use of the word ‘naughty’ grates in this context.
     
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    We have a threshold, a limit, a differentiation, a line to demark acceptable from unacceptable behavior. The jury didn't see his crimes as "naughty".
     
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    While I do not doubt the monster could be naughty, his crimes were barbaric and depraved.
     
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    No, it didn’t. What I replied went right over YOUR head.
     
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    I know you are but what am I?
     
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  6. northernguitar

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    Nihilist?
     
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    Its too bad that what Phil said went "THROUGH" her head.
     
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    When I see more "quoted" notifications than "liked" notifications, I know it's gonna be a good day!:lol:
     
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    Here’s my point of view on morality: “The commanding officer is ultimately responsible for all that transpires under his command.”

    It applies on both the local and cosmic scales. Don’t like something I did? Shouldn’t have put me here. I didn’t ask to be created. Cry me a river.

    Strangely enough, the people who know me in real life seem to think that I’m a very decent fellow and a nice man, so I guess I can’t be too bad, in spite of my military point of view.

    But I do find it interesting that you’re so concerned about us dumping on Phil, and trying to get us to hang our heads in shame. Anything you want to tell us, sport? We’re all ears. And they say confession is good for the soul. :D
     
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    I'm rubber and you're glue, so...
     
  11. Manual Slim

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    Oh.
     
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    It seems that if you are famous and have ever done anything bad, you'd better hope you don't die because you will be trashed relentlessly.

    And worse yet, is that you'll be trashed on a sliding scale of moral relativity. People will decide which things are "worse" or "not as bad" as others, making absolute certain that their bad behavior (or the bad behavior of famous idols who they worship) falls on the "good" side of that demarcation, of course.
     
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    I generally like you, but let this one go and quit doubling down on this lead zeppelin.

    On February 3, 2003, actress Lana Clarkson was found dead in record producer Phil Spector's mansion, the Pyrenees Castle, in Alhambra, California. Her body was found slumped in a chair with a single gunshot wound to her mouth with broken teeth scattered over the carpet
     
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    With very few exceptions, animals only kill out of necessity. And do not generally abuse or torture others for pleasure or amusement. Except cats. But you get my drift.
     
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    Agreed on both counts. It's not getting any more rational with repetition.
     
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    Animal means monster here.
     
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    Sure that’s ‘bad’. It’s also vicious, depraved, criminal, cowardly.....
     
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    I'm doubling down. Obviously murder is nasty, as are graphic depictions of it. But we need to stop thinking we are so high and mighty above everyone else. Spector was obviously an odd individual, but murder in many cases is committed by "normal" people who just snapped under the circumstances. Not condoning it, but the reality is that any one of us are capable of it (if the right, or wrong circumstances present themselves), regardless of whether or not we think we are. I'm sure if you'd ask many murderers if they had thought 2 days earlier they would ever commit such a crime, they would probably say no.

    I used to think I was high and mighty, and would compare bad things I did to worse things other people have done, thinking I would never do those things. But I have been shown quite clearly that I could, and this has humbled me.
     
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    Wow. Okay, suit yourself. You are in a fan club of one.
     
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    i wouldn't go justifying what spector did if i were you.
    for a start, he got off using gun barrels in a sexual manner. he was a sick weirdo and 99% of us aren't capable of what he did.
    as to whether he meant to kill lana clarkson, only he knows. maybe not, from witnesses' reaction to him after the event but either waym from the way he treated people there won't be many mourning his loss today.
     
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