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Phasers: use case suggestions

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  1. DeepDangler

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    I picked up a phaser a few months ago and have since removed it from my board. It was kind of neat but I found it was always too “in your face” to integrate into my rig. What are some good ways to use a phaser?
     
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    Which phaser did you have? If it was too in your face, did it not have a depth or effect level control?
     
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    I use a Boss PH3 phaser. It has multiple option and it can be dialed in to be more subtle. I just couldn’t figure out how to integrate it into a song. Even on subtle settings, it’s such a powerful effect because there’s no dry signal mixed in unlike trem, delay, chorus, flange, etc..
     
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    I like them slow, a la Waylon and Chris Stapleton.

    How many stages was the phaser you were using?
     
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    Doesn't either an MXR Phase 90 or 45 ( style) have just a Rate knob? ( effect mix/ depth are pre-set)
    I've owned phasers before ( many years ago) but just never kept as I like a small board, and don't want a pedal on there for just a few songs.

    * I do have a Chorus and a Mix control is a must!
     
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    Are you using it with distortion/overdrive or just with clean tones?

    The PH3 has a setting for 4, 8, 10 or 12 stages. I had one briefly, and I liked it OK, but it's definitely an in-your-face effect.

    Yep, Phase 90 has just a rate knob. That's why I asked. It's my favorite phaser tone, but you're stuck with the depth and effect level unless you want to mod it (and I was *this close* to modding mine for an effect level knob). With distortion, you can turn the rate all the way down and to the EVH thing. With clean tones, I like to put the rate around 12 o'clock and get a kind of warble sound. You can use it this way instead of a chorus or flanger. But yeah, if you want it less subtle then you need one that has an effect level control.
     
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    He can also get a Phase 45 or DOD 201 and have a 2-stage phaser, which are more subtle. The Phase 95 has the 90 and 45 in one box, so that's an option, as well.
     
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    There's also the MXR Phase 100, which as 4 intensity settings.
     
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    Just kinda figure out how to play along with the effect. As in timing the playing to the rate of the effect.

    I figured that one out listening to Waylon.
     
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    With a clean tone I can set my PH-3 to 8 stage phasing and the put the other knobs all at about 10 o’clock and it’s fairly subtle. You can definitely tell it’s a phaser but it’s not overbearing, at least to my ears. Finding a rate setting that fits the songs tempo is very helpful.
     
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    captain-kirk-star-trek-phaser - Copy.jpg

    Best Use Case: Saving the universe.
     
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    They’re great for goth and death rock and post punk. They also sound great with some dirt.
     
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    I have a phase 90, had a phase 100 back in the day. I’d like to add a mixer to it. It is too in your face but fun for vintage Van Halen and that kind of stuff.

    I’ll leave this here:
     
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    Source Audio Gemini. It’s whatever you want. You set all the parameters and can be a phased, flanger, or chorus.
     
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    I've always figured less stages makes the effect more subtle, not more stages. That's why some people prefer the Phase 45 to the Phase 90.
     
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    If I ever decide to part with the Phase 90, I think I will try the BYOC Phase Royal.

    https://buildyourownclone.com/collections/phase-royal/products/phaseroyal

    It has input and output level controls and a wet/dry control in addition to regeneration, depth and rate. The phasing part of the circuit is a module, and there's 4 modules to chose from. A 4 and 8 stage Phase 90, Ibanez Flying Pan or EHX Small Stone.
     
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    I use my phase 95 very sparingly in a couple of numbers a night. Usually to add some movement to a slow, laid back section or in the lead up to a bridge or solo to wind up some spacey tension or signal a change.

    it can also do big synthy textures with sustained distorted chords under a driving choppier rhythm guitar and bass. Nice combo.

    Easy to overuse.. like chorus. Make it count.
     
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    True, but the 4 stage doesn’t sound as good to me for some reason.
     
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    I use a Boss PH3 set on the 4 stage setting for the Ol' Waylon sound. It's the first pedal I go into. I use a CS3 Compressor and a volume pedal after it. I find having the compressor after the phaser makes the effect more subtle, and having the volume pedal after it makes up for any volume drop after it's engaged.
     
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