Pedal Order lessons learned...

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  1. beninma

    beninma Friend of Leo's Silver Supporter

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    Not sure why but it popped into my head whether or not I had my Tremolo pedal (Boss) in the right place.

    I have been running:

    Tremolo -> Reverb -> Delay

    Partly because my Delay supports an Expression pedal I was thinking of trying moving the Tremolo after the delay because the way my pedal board is laid out the Trem pedal would make it impossible to try an Expression pedal.

    Did a quick search and realized Tremolo is more commonly after Reverb (e.x. Fender amps)

    Changed to:

    Delay -> Reverb -> Tremolo

    Holy cow.. I'm in heaven. It's so much better for me. All of a sudden I realize that's what I was hearing on a whole bunch of music. (Regardless of whether the delay is used)
     
  2. RetroTeleRod

    RetroTeleRod Poster Extraordinaire

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    Like you, once I put the Trem pedal last there was no going back. :cool: I actually prefer Plate reverb into my Tremolo pedals these days.
     
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    Totally agree. There's something with plate and tremolo.
     
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  4. Paul in Colorado

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    Interesting. I like Tremolo > Delay > Reverb. And my Volume Pedal is after modulation and before delay. I'll have to try tremolo last as I recently got a little HoTone Trem for one of my boards. All of my other trems are part of multi modulation pedals except for amps that have it.

    As the old saying goes, There's more then one way to skin a cat. Not that I'd ever skin a cat or anything... :p
     
  5. MatchlessMan

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    I always used to put tremolo before delay, but I tried it both ways when I was setting up my C&W 'board (which I mainly use with a 5E3 Deluxe clone), and I found putting tremolo after delay sounded much better.

    If you think about amps with bias tremolo (eg Princeton Reverb), the tremolo acts on the power tubes and therefore comes after the reverb.

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  6. Charlie Bernstein

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    I keep trem last. Deeper swells and more drama that way.
     
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  7. Lies&Distortion

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    I tried it, is a different thing. Sounds good. I like my phaser before most dirt but I like tremelo last, even more last than I thought now.
     
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    I like my trem before my Big Muff, but I'm not sure I'm normal.
     
  9. Charlie Bernstein

    Charlie Bernstein Poster Extraordinaire

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    Contrary to popular belief, there is no right order for pedals. As Duke Ellington so succinctly put it, if it sounds good, it is good.

    But not to worry, you're probably still not normal!
     
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  10. PastorJay

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    40 years or so ago I loved the sound of fuzz into a phaser or an envelope follower. The fuzz changed the reactions of the envelope follower, and the phaser seemed to love swirling around all of the fuzz tone.

    These days the fuzz and the phaser are gone (although I still love the sound of a phase shifter; just don't need it for what I'm playing); and the envelope follower goes first in the chain if I'm using it. Trem goes at the end, and preferably in an effects loop if it's not built into the amp.
     
  11. Charlie Bernstein

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    Yup. The only thing worse than onboard 'verb is onboard trem!
     
  12. MilwMark

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    Where a pedal sits physically and the order in the signal chain are not indelibly linked.
     
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