pedal for violin tones?

[jipp]

Within You Without You The Beatles - YouTube

it has that creepiness to it but no.. thats not the instrument used on the movies. they were china/japan kong fu movies.. im a sucker for 70s kong fu movies.
or if it was the instrument it was much warmer sounding..
thanks for the video i did enjoy it.

maybe the sitar pedal from ehx could get the tones.. but out of my price for now.
chris.

 

[strummer tele]

maybe the sitar pedal from ehx could get the tones.. but out of my price for now.
chris.

Forget the Electro-Harmonix Sitar pedal. I have one..it don't sound like a real sitar. Oh, it sounds sitar-ish. But just as a Coral Electric Sitar has a sound that kind of sounds like a sitar, the EHX pedal does the same thing. It can pass as a sitar, but it sure ain't fooling anyone that it is a sitar.

As for violin, yes, the E-Bow is the right answer. E-Bows do two things: they give you that long, haunting sustain or when you "strum" the thing over chord shapes you get an unbelievable violin simulation. Very easy to do and sounds real good. Most people don't realize E-Bows do the violin thing. Have to read the instruction book that comes with it. You can also do woodwinds and other stuff. Really cool little gizmo.

 

[jipp]

Forget the Electro-Harmonix Sitar pedal. I have one..it don't sound like a real sitar. Oh, it sounds sitar-ish. But just as a Coral Electric Sitar has a sound that kind of sounds like a sitar, the EHX pedal does the same thing. It can pass as a sitar, but it sure ain't fooling anyone that it is a sitar.

As for violin, yes, the E-Bow is the right answer. E-Bows do two things: they give you that long, haunting sustain or when you "strum" the thing over chord shapes you get an unbelievable violin simulation. Very easy to do and sounds real good. Most people don't realize E-Bows do the violin thing. Have to read the instruction book that comes with it. You can also do woodwinds and other stuff. Really cool little gizmo.

cool will check it out. with getting the tone close with the muff/delay, volume.. and the ebow i bet i can get that tone im looking for. iv always thought of the bow as well iv never looked into it to be honest.
the sitar is not the right instrument. im sure its a string instrument with a bow.. probably a traditional one made from bamboo, and i dunno. with some crazy name.

been playing with the china scale to day.. 1,3,4#,7
its been fun.



chris.

 

[Bongocaster]

it has that creepiness to it but no.. thats not the instrument used on the movies. they were china/japan kong fu movies.. im a sucker for 70s kong fu movies.
or if it was the instrument it was much warmer sounding..
thanks for the video i did enjoy it.

maybe the sitar pedal from ehx could get the tones.. but out of my price for now.
chris.

Shakuhachi flute?

 

[Fearnot]

+3 (or 4?) on the Ebow. I've used one for years. I just played one of the new(er) ones and it has a 'harmonic' setting on the switch too. Extra creepy.

 

[whiteop]

I use an auto swell delay on an Echo Park or my HD500 with any dirt pedal that will increase sustain and get pretty close. I also add another delay to fill out the tone as well. Makes for a great violin tone live on the higher strings and a good cello type tone on the lower strings...

 

[whiteop]

I have an eBow as well but it's hard to control the volume. One foray towards the pickup and the volume rises too fast for live stage work where I feel completely comfortable using it. I do use it on the neck pickup and turn the volume down. Still have trouble keep the volume from getting out of hand. Any tips?

 

[RustleFuzz]

The closer the Ebow gets to the neck pickup the volume will increase. Try keeping the Ebow closer to the bridge pickup if you feel it gets too loud. The other thing you could do is pivot the Ebow in your hand at a 45 degree angle to reduce the magnetic pull on the string. You really need to use the neck pickup with an Ebow to get the most out of it...the rest is just trial and error with technique. A very cool effect when you figure out how it works with your rig.

Also try using it without a dirt pedal/channel...it works great with a clean sound.

Hope this helps. Chris you will dig one of these!

 

[BB]

Each of us finds what works best for, so this may not do it for you, but for violin, cello and other bowed string type simulations, my weapon of choice is my trusty 30 year old volume pedal. I bought an Ebow the first year they came out and still use it for certain things, but I find my TOVP (trusty ol' volume pedal) meets my needs for doing the bowed thing. It takes practice to get the technique down, but once you do it will become a part of you.

For me, it doesn't matter if I use single coils or buckers.....I play it squeaky clean at times, but also enjoy dialing in some delay and stepping on the ol dirt pedal. It can be quite amusing watching as people look around trying to figure out where that weird noise is coming from!

 

[blind illusion]

An E bow could do it if you learn the technique

 

[vjf1968]

Just get a Slow Engine by Mooer.

 

[TheletterJ]

I have an eBow as well but it's hard to control the volume. One foray towards the pickup and the volume rises too fast for live stage work where I feel completely comfortable using it. I do use it on the neck pickup and turn the volume down. Still have trouble keep the volume from getting out of hand. Any tips?

How about trying a compressor in the chain? In theory a comp pedal should give you a more normalized level across frequencies and outputs.

 

[allen082]

There's definitely some technique to learn with the ebow, but its no different than learning to control dynamics with a pick...... I feel incredibly confident when I pick up my ebow and do not struggle to get the sounds I want when playing live

 

[3waytie4last]

The one pedal that will get you an absolutely perfect violin tone is the Electro Harmonix Attack Decay Tape Reverse Simulator, but it's rare and vintage and will cost you about $1500 if you can find one.

An alternative for under $300 is the Pigtronix Attack Sustain pedal, which was meant to be a copy of the EH pedal. It does the violin tone, but doesn't really do the original pedal justice.

I've got both of these pedals as well as an Ebow and a guitar with a Sustainiac pickup. The pedals will give you a much more authentic violin sound because you can adjust the attack and decay of the note. You need to hammer it with vibrato to really get it right. The EH pedal is absolutely heavenly and is probably my all-time favorite pedal.

 

[shane6377]

You can get those tones a lot of different ways. Most of my tricks have been mentioned by others but I'll add the use of a slide.

For me, the most important ingredient is the volume pedal to take off the attack. I almost always use reverb and delay too. I use a Diamond Compressor to add sustain. Depending on my mood or the tone I'm going for I'll throw on an overdrive or boost.

The ebow is a cool option too. I found I get smoother, more violin/cello tones when I roll the volume back on my guitar when using the ebow.

 

[Freethenoise]

This is the closest I can get to orchestral type sounds.
As far as I know there is no single pedal that can pull it off, a multieffect probably could quite well though.
There's a hint of fuzz for a bit of a raspy feel, an octave to generate the sounds of a cello or larger bodied stringed instrument backing the tone (this is probably not needed if you just want a single violin sound), a volume pedal for the swells and some reverb to give it a cavernous feel like it was in a concert hall. There's also a hint of compression to even out the swells.

After some experimentation, in a band mix, this sounds pretty good to my ears.

 

[jipp]

This is the closest I can get to orchestral type sounds.
As far as I know there is no single pedal that can pull it off, a multieffect probably could quite well though.
There's a hint of fuzz for a bit of a raspy feel, an octave to generate the sounds of a cello or larger bodied stringed instrument backing the tone (this is probably not needed if you just want a single violin sound), a volume pedal for the swells and some reverb to give it a cavernous feel like it was in a concert hall. There's also a hint of compression to even out the swells.

After some experimentation, in a band mix, this sounds pretty good to my ears.

very cool. but not quite the sound im looking at. way to much bass and not enough nasal other wise yeah it has that sliding that bow effect going on.
and also i see where the scale gives the vibe a different flavor too. now im getting my self familiar with a few of the Asian scales.
thanks man. nice rig btw. better than my junk rock on.
chris.

 

[jipp]

Just get a Slow Engine by Mooer.

valid, but i dunno if it could do what i want either. but i do plan on getting one. just waiting for a used one to pop up. ( this thread has given me lots of information to try to get it.. till then i will just keep working on the eastern scales, and watch lots more kong fu movies ) thanks for the advice. rock on.

chris.

 

[BryMelvin]

Why not give the real thing a try?

(what is he doing with that guitar? )

I think the windings on the round wound strings would play havoc on a bow's horsehair ...you might try to find an ebow. I think Frampton and some others used to use one.http://www.sweetwater.com/store/manufacturer/Ebow?utm_source=MSN&utm_medium=PPC&utm_campaign=vendors&utm_term=ebow

 

[Calum61]

If it's Chinese movies, the instrument may be a Gu Zheng (look it up on web): it's a box with strings (no offence intended) played flat, like a steel guitar or zither, but it produces distinctive and expressive whining, sinuous and singing sounds. No idea how you'd get that out of a guitar, I'm afraid.