Pedal for Late-60s Heavy Rock Overdrive at Lower Volume

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  1. cravenmonket

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    I'm searching for a pedal to use with a '65 PRRI and a Tele that will roughly approximate that big, growly, warm Led Zeppelin I & II sound heard on Heartbreaker, Good Times Bad Times, etc. Nothing too specific, just that nicely overdriven, not excessively fuzzy sound.

    I know the Princeton isn't really the right amp for the job, but it takes pedals well. I already have a tape delay pedal (Strymon El Cap). I just want to noodle around and pull some guitar faces and hero poses without making ears bleed all over the place.

    Budget $350-ish or less.

    Thanks for your help!
     
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    whatever you do, don't spend 350 on an overdrive pedal.
    boss od3 or a timmy will probably get you there.

     
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    The double double is one of my fav from mxr
     
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    JHS Charlie Brown is supposed to sound like a JTM45 rather than a plexi, so very 60s British Blues/ early 70s rock

    JHS Super Bolt is based on a Supro Amp - which was what Page used on LZ1

    if you want to go all out, some kind of EP-type boost and/ or a British sola-type fuzz to round out your early Page tones
     
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    Catalinbread RAH comes to mind

     
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    Lots of pedals will do that. Check out the MXR Super Badass Distortion. Does everything from clean boost to saturated and has treble/mid/bass controls. It’s fat and chunky. Lots of growl with nice sizzle on top if you turn up the treble. Very affordable too.
     
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    Super versatile, and very awesome and yes super badass, BUT very relatively modern-sounding, IMO
     
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    Agreed
     
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    Really? I think it sounds pretty classic rock. Depends on the amp and application, I suppose.
     
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    I love it, but to me it's generally *just* this side of djent
     
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    ODR-1 does the trick for me.
     
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    The Dano Daddy-O will get you where you want to be. It's based on the marshall Guv'ner just like the JHS Angry Charlie, but at 1/10 the price. You will need delicate, slender fingertips to turn the knobs however.
     
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    Believe this one was Petty/Mike Campbell approved, also
     
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    A Supro in a box might do the due (MIAB vs SIAB?) but a Tone Bender by any brand might also cover some of it.

    My feeling about using a dirt pedal into a 12w amp is that above conversation volume you're really hearing the character of the amp's breakup, more than the character of the pedal, and a PRRI is going to sound like a PRRI at anything above bedroom volume.
    But that's just like my opinion man.

    OTOH if you play Page riffs with any old dirt not many listeners will notice the dirt is "wrong".

    But the Supro he used sounded like itself.
    The Tone Bender he used sounded like itself.
    He seems to have gotten Marshall sounds out of Marshalls.
    No DRRI sounds on the list.
     
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    I agree it is great but more modern sounding.

    Similar but more late 70s is the 78 Badass. Less EQ but I don't need the extra EQ.

    Of course, I just roll Boss:

    - slightly more modern overdrive (tighter, more refined): OD3
    - grittier, more vintage overdrive (less refined): BD2
    - JTM45 to very EARLY JCM800: DS1

    At home I use SS/digital. Better sound and feel at lower volume for me.
     
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    I posted this because:

    Based on the rare Univox UD-50 Uni-Drive reportedly used by Hendrix and Jimmy Page in the late '60s and early '70s, Danelectro's The Breakdown uses three 2N3904 silicon transistors (in place of the original's out-of-production silicon Matsushita 2SC859 “black button” transistors) to blast your amp's front end with up ...
    https://www.premierguitar.com/articles/30089-danelectro-the-breakdown-boost-overdrive-fuzz-pedal-stompbox-review-Pedals

    I own it and it really does sound very early Zepp
     
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    So, this is a super outside the box pedal but, I owned one for ages and loved it. The Electro Harmonix English Muff'n. It's tube powered, sensitive EQ, versatile. And you can swap the tubes to get different levels of gain. I used one in-front of a Twin Reverb and got a ton of milage out of it from Zepp to Metallica.

    Also, like everyone else said, DO NOT spend $350 on an OD/ Distortion!
     
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