Pedal Amps

Discussion in 'Modeling Amps, Plugins and Apps' started by DNestler, Feb 18, 2020.

  1. DNestler

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    Hey Folks,

    I've been looking into the likes of BluGuitar Amp1, Line 6 Helix, et al. Discovered the Mooer Preamp Live today.

    Does anyone use a stomp-box amp to gig with? And can you share a bit of experience?
    - Do you go into a cab or direct to the PA?
    - Do you use outboard effects or stick with the onboard stuff?

    Thanks!
    Daniel
     
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    Cheapest I have - Joyo American Sound - it gets 95% there to a Fender Deluxe sound through a good PA. And I got mine for $20. It is a one trick pony unlike the Helix and the others, but that trick is pretty good.

    I am interested in looking at the L6 Stomp though as I would like to have some other options at my disposal.
     
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    Can you plug the Joyo directly into a computer? I saw the Stomp pedals, but damn, those are expensive. I though the whole point of a pedal amp was to be affordable?
     
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    I run my Joyo into a DI Box and then into the PA.

    But I did run it into my Garage band app and recorded a little playing one time so it will do that if you have an interface to attach the two together.
    Mine goes

    Guitar > pedal board> Joyo American Sound> Apogee Jam >IPad Garage band and I record it as a sourced line in.
     
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    Same thing here.....
     
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    Quilter Interblock 45...either as an amp, as a pre to board, or both...kills it for my needs
     
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    Why do you do that? It's got an onboard DI, doesn't it? (I own one, and run it direct to the house)
     
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    MF had them on sale on yesterday's SDOTH for $99. I'm a little familiar with Quilter but had never heard of that 45. Sounds like I should have jumped on that. What's that Tri-Q like? And does it take a reverb pedal well?
     
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    no idea, sorry. All I know is the power sections are identical.
     
  10. DNestler

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    The Electro Harmonix 5mm can be had for much less than $100.00.

    When they add effects, channel switching etc, then the pedals acquire expense.

    The Mooer Preamp Live has a thing called tone grabbing. It analyses the frequencies of the sampled instrument and then replicates them. So you can make your Tele sound like a Les Paul, as long as you have a Les Paul to sample first.

    Daniel
     
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    I have a Line 6 Helix that I use in 3 different scenarios:

    1) I do a lot of pit work for stage musicals. In these instances the pedal goes straight to the board for FOH and pit monitors/headphones.
    2) I do a solo act in care homes playing to backing tracks. In this instance I run the Helix through a Bose S1 powered speaker.
    3) I play in a 7 piece band. The Helix goes straight to the board and we use IEM.

    I haven't had the need to use any external pedals with the Helix.
     
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    me four.

    seriously. That one trick pony is REALLY good at that one trick. Cheapest in my rig, but damn, it sounds good.

    guitar -> board -> Joyo American Sound -> PA

    sometimes I use it as a second clean tone if I’m using a mic’ed amp. Turns an AC30 into a tweed amp. Be careful on the gain knob though
     
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    If you mean a pedal size amp.
    I got the quilter micro45 and ehx 44 magnum.
    Gigged with both. They Work fine as a stand alone amp into a cab or w pedals in front.
    Great backup options.

    If you mean pedal that emulates an amp
    I got tech 21 Liverpool and British + joyo American sound.
    If I put these in front of the quilter amp or ehx I got a killer rig that emulates the Vox , Marshall or tweed vibe respectively.
    Highly recommend all 3.
    They also are great when do a gig where I have no Amp and need to plug into a PA.
     
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    I’ve got a buddy who has a Quilter and a Bluguitar amp 1

    the quilter is pretty good.

    the Amp 1 is phenomenal but obviously more expensive.

    I’ve actually been considering selling my vintage music man and buying an amp 1 to replace it.
     
  16. VintageSG

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    When I run mine, it's guitar --> other pedals --> Joyo AS --> D.I. --> snake/mixer. [1]

    It sounds better to my ears. This may be due to sciencey impedance stuff with extended cable runs, whereas the D.I. is an active and the AS only 'sees' the D.I. load rather than trying to drive the cable run.

    My only regret regarding the AS is not buying one sooner.

    [1] At home, I also use a valve mic pre-amp pre-mixer, but post D.I. Whatever works for you is the correct solution. For long cable runs, an active D.I. is an option worth considering. Balance those loads, match those impedances and odd things tend not to happen.
     
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    I use an AMT SS-20:

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    And sometimes a BMT Tube Wizard IV:
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    They both have speaker-emulated outputs, but I use an Omni CabSim clone instead as I prefer analog simulation to IR's. I plug into powered speakers in stereo.
    They both have FX loops so I can use my pedals. The AMT usually wins space on my board as it's smaller (a lot smaller) although I reckon the BMT sounds slightly better.

    They both do the job of an amp really well.

    That new BluGuitar AmpX looks interesting, but $$$$ spendy.
     
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    @JuneauMike you are correct in one sense. When I am at home I can run direct into my Garageband or whatever with a 1/4" lead straight out of the AS.

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    However when I play at church we have XLR connections that run to the FOH sound board so I run a line out of the AS into a DI which then goes to the XLR.

    When I play bass, I substitute the AS with a Dr. J Sparrow bass sansamp which has an DI XLR out. That is probably where the difference lies.
     
  19. JuneauMike

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    Ok. Yeah, we've got a 1/4 to XLR cable for direct in to the snake.
     
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    Cool stuff. Thanks all.

    Anyone still using a Line 6 Pod 2.0?

    Daniel
     
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