Peavey Bandit 112 TT vs. Peavey Envoy 110 TT

[FenderGuy53]

Apart from the obvious differences between these two amps (physical size, speaker size & output watts) are there any compelling reasons why one would be preferred, or superior, to the other?

Thanks, guys.

 

[Rialto1564]

I got a red strip Envoy a couple weeks ago. It has a headphone jack, which I don't think the others do.

The Bandit has more tonal shaping options, and if I'm not mistaken, a line out for an external speaker. The Envoy is about 20 lbs., roughly half as much as the Bandit.

You can find more details in the owner's manuals, online. Between the Envoy and the Bandit is the Studio Pro. Something for everyone.

 

[Platefire]

Bandit would be Superior. Platefire

 

[JayFreddy]

I own both. They serve different purposes.

I used the Envoy when I was teaching at a local college. Because of campus politics, parking was about a half mile from the classroom, so I had to lug it across campus on a luggage carrier.

With a decent clean sound, two inputs, and reverb, the Envoy was perfect for that teaching gig. A Bandit would have been too heavy, and far more power than was required.

On the other hand, the Bandit is better for Blues jams, band practices, or anywhere that you have to keep up with a drummer.

For living room and coffee house jams, the Envoy is perfect. For garage jams or dive bars, the Bandit is the ticket.

Comparing the two is like comparing a large chef knife to a smaller paring knife. They're superficially very similar, but they do different jobs.

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[FenderGuy53]

I own both. They serve different purposes.

I used the Envoy when I was teaching at a local college. Because of campus politics, parking was about a half mile from the classroom, so I had to lug it across campus on a luggage carrier.

With a decent clean sound, two inputs, and reverb, the Envoy was perfect for that teaching gig. A Bandit would have been too heavy, and far more power than was required.

On the other hand, the Bandit is better for Blues jams, band practices, or anywhere that you have to keep up with a drummer.

For living room and coffee house jams, the Envoy is perfect. For garage jams or dive bars, the Bandit is the ticket.

Comparing the two is like comparing a large chef knife to a smaller paring knife. They're superficially very similar, but they do different jobs.

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I get it. There's a tool for every job, and a job for every tool, right?

On the other hand, isn't it better to have more and need less, than to have less and need more?

I suppose having 2 (or more) amps would be the ideal solution - just grab the one you need. I was hoping that I could get away with having just one.

Thanks for your perspective, JayFreddy. Always enlightening - and refreshing.

 

[Doug 54]

Yea, if you're teaching, the 2 inputs on the Envoy is nice

 

[littlebadboy]

I have a Red Stripe Bandit US.

LOUD.

 

[LGOberean]

Over the years, I’ve owned a number of Peavey amps in this series: 3 Envoy 110s (teal, silver & red stripes); 2 Studio Pros (teal stripe 110 & silver stripe 112); and a couple of Bandits (65 & 75).

The Envoy 110 was a convenient amp, because of the dual inputs and lighter weight. And at 40 watts, quite loud (35 watts in the case of the teal stripe). One drawback for me was less clean headroom. Consequently, I rarely used mine for anything except home use. (If I had had a teaching situation like JayFreddy mentioned, one of my Envoys might have gotten the call.) I don’t recall ever using one of my Envoys for a gig. I took one to an open mic event once, jammed with other guitarists and a drummer. The Envoy just didn’t quite cut it.

Obviously, the more powerful Bandit is going to handle jams, rehearsals and gigs, and will sound good doing so. The drawback here of course is weight. All “stripes” of Bandits I’m aware of weigh more than 40 lbs.

If I were in the market for a Peavey TransTube series amp, and could only buy one amp for all applications, I’d look for a silver stripe or red stripe Studio Pro 112. They’re ten pounds or so lighter than their corresponding Bandits. And with 65 watts of output power, in my experience they’re loud enough for jams and bands with a drummer. Two inputs, so could be useful in that teaching situation.

The drawbacks to the Studio Pros are possibly size, and availability. As for the size, the Studio Pro cabinet does not have as small a footprint as the Envoy 110, and weighs a bit more. But then again, it weighs less than a Bandit. As for availability, the Studio Pro was discontinued after the red stripe version, so current options are either Envoy or Bandit. If you go with a Studio Pro, you have to buy used. It’s worth it, though, IMHO.

 

[FenderGuy53]

If I were in the market for a Peavey TransTube series amp, and could only buy one amp for all applications, I’d look for a silver stripe or red stripe Studio Pro 112. They’re ten pounds or so lighter than their corresponding Bandits. And with 65 watts of output power, in my experience they’re loud enough for jams and bands with a drummer. Two inputs, so could be useful in that teaching situation.

The drawbacks to the Studio Pros are possibly size, and availability. As for the size, the Studio Pro cabinet does not have as small a footprint as the Envoy 110, and weighs a bit more. But then again, it weighs less than a Bandit. As for availability, the Studio Pro was discontinued after the red stripe version, so current options are either Envoy or Bandit. If you go with a Studio Pro, you have to buy used. It’s worth it, though, IMHO.

USED Studio Pro, or NEW Bandit 112. Got it!

The current Bandits are 41 pounds, which I'm guessing is light, compared to its Silver Stripe and Red Stripe predecessors.

 

[FenderGuy53]

For living room and coffee house jams, the Envoy is perfect.

JayFreddy, as you know, I already have the new Peavey Bandit 112.

I want a second, smaller, new s/s amp for more intimate settings and those impromptu grab-and-go scenarios.

I know you like the Bandit Envoy 110 and the Roland Cube's.

Given my situation, would you recommend a Peavey Envoy 110 or a Roland Cube 40GX?

Thanks, man.

 

[Veltek]

JayFreddy, as you know, I already have the new Peavey Bandit 112.

I want a second, smaller, new s/s amp for more intimate settings and those impromptu grab-and-go scenarios.

I know you like the Bandit Envoy 110 and the Roland Cube's.

Given my situation, would you recommend a Peavey Envoy 110 or a Roland Cube 40GX?

Thanks, man.

Hey man, its pretty clear by now. Everyone seems to be saying the Envoy OR dot dot dot.

You are basically obligated to get an Envoy now

You still owe us some tunes from that sweet new Bandit BTW

 

[FenderGuy53]

Everyone seems to be saying the Envoy OR dot dot dot.

You are basically obligated to get an Envoy now

Veltek, the "dot dot dot" has me thinking.

With the Envoy, I'd still have to grab my pedalboard...

With the Roland, the pedalboard is built in! Plus, there would be some diversity in my studio.

OTOH, the Envoy brings familiarity - and peace of mind (5-yr warranty).

You still owe us some tunes from that sweet new Bandit BTW

But I haven't heard any tunes from YOUR Bandit![emoji14]

 

[JayFreddy]

Bandit vs. Envoy is much simpler than Envoy vs Cube.

Do they still make the Cube 40? I thought it was replaced by the Katana 50.

Don't overthink it. If you get the Cube and decide you need two inputs, then get an Envoy. If you get an Envoy and decide you need built in effects, then go buy a Cube/Katana.

A new Katana is also $200 vs. the Envoy's $300. I don't think the Envoy is worth the added $100, but if I allowed myself the luxury of buying used... I'd keep my eyes open for an old Red Stripe Envoy or a used Cube 40. I think my cheapest Red Stripe Envoy was $80. Used Cube 40's are still bringing $140-ish.

 

[Veltek]

Veltek, the "dot dot dot" has me thinking.

With the Envoy, I'd still have to grab my pedalboard...

With the Roland, the pedalboard is built in! Plus, there would be some diversity in my studio.

OTOH, the Envoy brings familiarity - and peace of mind (5-yr warranty).



But I haven't heard any tunes from YOUR Bandit![emoji14]

I hate onboard FX. not because they are, or are not good, but because I cannot customize and tweak. I like my pedal board, ya know? So i'd rather a pedal platform.

And You haven't herd my bandit because the player behind it sucks! bahaha.

 

[FenderGuy53]

Bandit vs. Envoy is much simpler than Envoy vs Cube.

Do they still make the Cube 40? I thought it was replaced by the Katana 50.

Don't overthink it. If you get the Cube and decide you need two inputs, then get an Envoy. If you get an Envoy and decide you need built in effects, then go buy a Cube/Katana.

A new Katana is also $200 vs. the Envoy's $300. I don't think the Envoy is worth the added $100, but if I allowed myself the luxury of buying used... I'd keep my eyes open for an old Red Stripe Envoy or a used Cube 40. I think my cheapest Red Stripe Envoy was $80. Used Cube 40's are still bringing $140-ish.

Costs aside, since I already have a Bandit 112, would it make better sense to get the Envoy or the Cube as a second, grab-and-go amp?

 

[FenderGuy53]

I hate onboard FX. not because they are, or are not good, but because I cannot customize and tweak. I like my pedal board, ya know? So i'd rather a pedal platform.

Ohhh, okay. Now I see what you mean. Great (and obvious) point. Duh!

And You haven't herd my bandit because the player behind it sucks! bahaha.

I seriously doubt it, Veltek. I'm sure you can hang with the rest of them.

Having said that, I will try to upload a soundclick track or two after I get my new space situated.

 

[littlebadboy]

If I may share:

 

[Veltek]

Al

Ohhh, okay. Now I see what you mean. Great (and obvious) point. Duh!




I seriously doubt it, Veltek. I'm sure you can hang with the rest of them.

Having said that, I will try to upload a soundclick track or two after I get my new space situated.

Also, didn't you mention to me that you didn't want a "modeling" amp? You wanted analog.

Cube with all its built in FX would be a modeler. Envoy keeps true to the analog lifestyle. I'd take thexit Katana over the cube any day. Priced better for the amount of features you get.

 

[FenderGuy53]

I'd take thexit Katana over the Cube any day. Priced better for the amount of features you get.

Veltek, I agree. After listening to demo's and studying the feature sets of both, I think the Katana is a clear choice, especially given its price!

Thanks.

 

[Veltek]

Veltek, I agree. After listening to demo's and studying the feature sets of both, I think the Katana is a clear choice, especially given its price!

Thanks.

I think for what you want it for, its the better option.

Power scaling, different amp models. customizable channels. 55 of bosses pedals built in. etc etc. Not to mention they just sound damn good.