- May 17, 2008
- West Coast
Shorter headline: "No Cure for Weller's Knotted Knickers"
New Order were more influential than any of ’em.
(… ducks and runs for cover… )
I meant the specific sort of lead bass line common to Cure and New Order songs in the '80s...
It's a specific style, and doesn't really owe anything to JAE.
Well, since we're just saying subjective stuff and pretending that 'wins the internet', the Jam are grossly overrated, only popular in the UK and can't hold a candle to the Cure. Oasis was a Beatles style band, not the Jam, no matter what Gallagher says.
With respect to influence--influencing a band in the UK is nothing compared to influencing bands around the globe. Worldwide success, like the Cure has, does that.
Also, just because it’s hotter than the sun:
I’ll bet Noel Fielding prefers the Cure!Yeah, I'm a (minor) fan actually. Some great hits, obviously an icon and influence on many, including Noel Gallagher for good or ill. But that Paul's spent "decades" viewed widely as "the pinnacle" is kind of overselling it for me.
And I'd say the same thing about Robert Smith, who has sold 10x more records than Mr. Weller.
AccurateI’ll bet Noel Fielding prefers the Cure!
Four, actually. Which kind of prove my point.
Up through Pornography (1982), the Cure had a post-punk goth sound (Killing an Arab, Boys Don't Cry, etc). I actually like the singles from that era, they're a lot different than the stuff that came after because starting in 1984, they changed to the more pop oriented sound that made them famous. That same year the Smiths made their LP debut with the same basic mope-rock modus operandi, only Morrissey and Marr were much better at it and established a legacy that the Cure would never equal.
If you lived under a rock in the '90s, perhaps.
You've heard of The Cure but have never heard of "Town Called Malice"?
Bob must have dissed his ridiculous mullet.https://faroutmagazine.co.uk/paul-weller-attacks-the-cure-frontman-robert-smith/ He said some very unkind things.
I think he maybe buys it in the same shop as Johnny Marr buys his.Bob must have dissed his ridiculous mullet.
I always thought the Smiths were pretty funny, though Moz has been repeatedly exposed as a complete doofus in the 30+ years since they split up so I dunno. I think the "goth" sartorial sense of a lot of these bands' fans unfairly contributed to the perception of the bands themselves. Only ones who really fit the dress for me are JD, Bauhaus, and Sisters.Smiths and Morrissey were too whiney and angsty and navel-gazey in a not-too-bright, obvious, heavy-handed way. The Cure, though sort of suffering from a similar set of maladies, we’re doing something new and interesting. Smarter, cooler, less “high-school sad boys”.
That was your takeaway from my post? I don't know if my post speaks to anything that Paul Weller can or can't do.So he's not allowed to dislike someone?
I know I just had to blow his horn as he influenced both.
Hook was doing that in Joy Division so I would say Hook was first.
Joy Division's first album - 15 June 1979
The Cure's first album - 11 May 1979