Overdrive for clean backline amps?

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  1. joeford

    joeford Friend of Leo's

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    definitely not. you want a distortion pedal... not an overdrive

    there's so many good amp in the box pedals in that crunch box family. the suhr riot... the joyo us dream... the jhs angry charlie...

    there's a ton of jcm 800 copycats too. the wampler plexi... lovepedal purple plexi...

    and as others have mentioned, a proco rat can get you in that territory too
     
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    Also I like to have a compressor with a blend knob in my back pocket Incase I’m playing an amp I’m unfamiliar with. I’m familiar with my tweed deluxe and if I had to plug into something powerful like a twin or deville I would want my compressor because I would never get the volume loud enough for it to naturally add some compression and feel like a hotter amp under my fingers.
     
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    If I only had two, probably my hoof and tube screamer. Covers a lot of ground, sounding great all the way.
     
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    I agree. The 805 has replaced my BYOC Overdrive, TS7, TS5, and TS808. It just does that kind of sound a lot better.
     
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    Another vote for the Rat.
    Overdrive/Distortion and Fuzz all in one!
     
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    Hi.

    Yeah, Rat.

    As well as being my tongue in cheek default answer to any and all pedal questions, they are also great. I’m always impressed by how nice mine sounds dialled back into the OD range.

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    Mojo Hand Rook is my favorite for this application.

    Very versatile, can basically be a distortion, TS type, or full range boost. They make double pedals if you want to stack.
     
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    Yes, and the EQ controls are so powerful and useful that you can get tones way beyond what a Tube Screamer can do. I dial the treble up to 3:00, roll back the mids to 9:00, and it approaches transparent, but it still has that cool compression thing that Tube Screamers do. I use it mainly to stack it into my Tim, but if I had to choose only one pedal to gig with, it would be the 805. Very versatile pedal.
     
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  9. chris m.

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    Another vote for RAT or MI Audio Crunchbox. Truetone Jekyll/Hyde also gives huge range of possibilities.
     
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    This is exactly why I have a CS-2 on my board. No blend, but it's the best fairly transparent compressor I've ever used. I haven't checked prices recently, but they were always fairly reasonable. No one makes a clone of it because the VCA chip used in the circuit is unobtainium now.
     
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    It sounds like you want two things- a booster to push tube amps into OD, and a dirt box for making SS amps sound like pushed tube amps. A TS will definitely not do the latter.

    I'd look at the Catalinbread amp sim pedals- the DLS has a 3-band EQ which gives you flexibility, which is good if you're gonna be playing lots of different backline stuff. You can't go far wrong with a Rat, either.
     
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    Barber Gain Changer -- it covers everything from boost to gain (and lots on tap if you need it). What Barber needs to do is merge two of these into a dual footswitch box and it would give KOT some stiff competition !!
     
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    Rat!
    (I’m sorry, what was the question?)
     
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    Lovepedal Les Lius for the 5E3 setting as well as the Twin. And an Amp 11 black Big Box for everything else. I could get the Amp 11 to do what the Les Lius does but I would have to tweak it, this way I just step on what I need. I'm using a BF Bassman that I've rehoused in a 2X10 cab built by Mather Cab Co. The only other pedals I'm using are a Strymon Flint for reverb and trem.
     
  15. Bill

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    Some pedals are made for clean amps. I use a Blackstone Appliances MOSFET overdrive. Its tiny case provides two channels, each designed to adjust for single coils and humbuckers, and adds Marshall flavor. It responds very amp like and cleans up from the volume control of your guitar.
     
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    RAT.

    Except I use an ENO Myomophia which Ammoon does now for 23GDP. Might be worth a punt before you spend well over 100USD. There's always room for a RAT (especially a mini-sized one) even if you decide to get something else later.
     
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    Stacking can work well. I often stack a Tube Screamer style into a Rat style. If I'm playing through an amp with Fender-ish tones, the TS comes on first, then the Rat style for dirtier sounds. Reverse the order of what comes on when if playing through a Vox-style amp.

    I have a friend who stacks a Klon clone with a Tube Screamer through a Fender. Sounds great.

    With a Fender tweed I might just use a Klon clone or a Tube Screamer. Depends on how much dirt you can get.

    I've never used a Timmy, but people who play through Vox amps seem to love them, often as an always on little bit of dirt pedal.
     
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  18. PastorJay

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    Tube Screamer probably doesn't work if you're into a solid state amp. For that situation you might want an amp simulator of some kind. Tech 21 makes several. The Blonde covers both Tweed and BF/SF sounds, and can get pretty dirty if that's what you want. Joyo makes a much less expensive pedal that is supposedly a clone of the Blonde.

    You could probably use one of these as a dirt pedal into a clean tube amp.

    Everything else I suggested (post number 37 immediately above) probably also works with a clean SS amp.
     
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    I am going that way many times. Last month I had to play with a Marshall VS100, an Blackstar "something"20, a Katana, a Vox valvetronix, a Fender hot rod and a JCM900 and my THR10 thought PA. My main amp is a Bassman 59 LTD...


    I just dial a clean I would like and use TWO Tubescreamers, one for crunch and the second stacked for leads

    Actually I use the same pedals I use every day. I mean, I don't change anything. Just carry my pedalboard and that it is. I wouldn't buy more pedals just in case I have to use backline amps.

    What you have to do is LEARN to use any f*****g amp in any f*****g condition you can find. Just dial the nicest clean you can dial (for you) and live with it... in that gig

    Sometimes it can make you upset and angry but most of the times is quite fun and challenging to me... lets find what can I do with this thing
     
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    A bluesbreaker or a clone. For higher gain anything based on a Zendrive. RATs and OCDs are also a great option depending on what flavor you like. I use the two Mooer clones of BB and Zendrive, separately or stacked, into my clean BF. Nice range of options.

    I’d stay away from Tubescreamers and Klons for your application.
     
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