Out of tune recordings

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  1. Flat6Driver

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    Interesting about the demos. Demos always sound "blah" but cool as an artifact of a band you like. I never thought about how magic the producer adds.
     
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    Been there... Same with AC/DCs "Highway to Hell"
     
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    From the tack-hammery piano to all the amp vibrato to Mr. D's deliberately flat voice, it can be hard to hear how out of tune that lead guitar is (the one playing the big chords--so the lead rhythm, I guess). Like trying to pick out the drunkest drunk on a boat that's pitching in the waves. But the lead guitar wins. It all fits the song well, of course. At his best, Mr. D. sure knows how to fold flaw into gem.
     
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    The reasons behind it may vary, but I can confirm that while trying to play along/learn tunes (way pre-digital) I ALWAYS seemed to need to adjust tuning to the specific song.
     
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    When I began playing in bands back in the 50’s the only tuners available were pitch pipes. How accurate were those things, and then had to tune to them by ear. We would tune one guitar and then tune the others to that (also by ear of course). Once in a while there would be a piano or organ around that we could to to, but how in tune they were was anybody’s guess.

    But, we still made music.
     
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    That doesn't mean it was sped up. It just means it's not tuned to A440.
     
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    I learned to tune my guitar while playing along with the Beatles early stuff (1964). It seemed that each song was "off" different than the others. My first investment after college was a tunable turntable in 1969.
     
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    I’ll add Shot down in flames!!
     
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    digging into the history, it was either sped up or slowed down slightly to match the vocal on the demo . . .

    then there's that special category known as Frankie Valli
     
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    Some live recordings from late '60s and early '70s have machine wow and flutter issues,
    then weird temperature changes in halls especially in winter during the recordings causing
    slight tape speed variations.
     
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    It's all about the feeling not the tuning. Quite a bit of Rock and Roll is out of tune and feels great. Nothing is ever really in tune on a guitar anyway. Each string is tempered to its own scale ,close enough is all you are ever going to get.
     
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    I remember reading a transcription of “Shoot to Thrill” in a guitar world when I was a kid and it said that the guitar was tuned off by a few hertz
     
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    Like any of the tunes mentioned would sound better if they were tuned to A 440. I think they did very well with what they had. People nowadays cling to their Snarks & such like Linus to his blanket. Yesterday's players didn't have the luxury to do so...
     
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    I always thought they intentionally applied some sort of vibrato-like pitch manipulation to that guitar... and the other guitar is out of tune with the piano too. Seemed to me like they just wanted a funky, drunk instrument sort of sound to that recording.
     
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    Everything Neil Young???!:)
     
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