Open gear tuners on electric guitar?

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  1. 985plowboy

    985plowboy Friend of Leo's

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    When I was a kid it seemed like all the little cheap guitars my family bought for me to drag around had open gear tuners. When I did finally buy my first decent guitar, I was well satisfied knowing that the closed gear tuners were a mark of better equipment.
    Now I see Martin and Larivee and probably other acoustic guitar makers going to open gear tuners on some very expensive guitars.
    Why?
    Is this just a fad?
    Are there advantages I don’t know about?
    Should we expect the electric guitar industry to follow suit?
     
  2. Guy Guyatone

    Guy Guyatone TDPRI Member Silver Supporter

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    The quality of the machining determines how good the tuner is.

    The makers of high-end open tuners probably subscribe to the "less is more" philosophy: lighter weight and mass. Open tuners require a little more attention with regular lubrication that a closed back.
     
  3. David Barnett

    David Barnett Doctor of Teleocity

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    Open tuners can be perfectly reasonable. This Gretsch Tennesseean has Grover Sta-Tite open tuners, and they're suitable enough.

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    schmee Doctor of Teleocity Silver Supporter

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    Probably just because some great tuners are made with open gearing, but yes, I think it is a bit of a fad now days.
    I'd sure like to have Waverly open tuners on all my guitars though!
     
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    gitold Poster Extraordinaire

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    There are cheap lousy closed back tuners and there are cheap lousy open back tuners. There are great expensive closed back tuners and great expensive open back tuners. As Schmee just said I wish all my guitars had Waverlys.
     
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    Vintage and newer Kluson-style (and similar) tuners are basically 'open' with covers.
     
  7. Collin D Plonker

    Collin D Plonker Tele-Afflicted

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    Covers don't make a better tuner. Witness cheap Chinese junk.
     
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  8. WalthamMoosical

    WalthamMoosical Tele-Holic Ad Free Member

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    What's inside a sealed tuner that is so special? I mean, are they trying to hide something?

    I just gave my 1969 Harmony acoustic a freshening up, including polishing 5 decades worth of tarnish off much of the brass of the tuners, and apart from a couple of bent button stems, these things seem fine. Well, 12:1 maybe not so lovely, but I don't see how putting a box around them would improve them. Are they supposed to be packed in lithium grease or something?
     
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