Once again, Speaker question

[BB]

I posted some time ago about a replacement speaker for my late 80's, pre trans-tube Peavey Envoy 110. Since I run on an extremely tight budget, I need something fairly inexpensive, yet able to help improve the headroom and tone beyond what the stock speaker offers.

I found a 10" Celestion Tube 10 30 for $29 new. I found a Celestion G10N-40 for $30 used. Both are 8ohms while the stock Peavey speaker is 6ohms. Any issues with that? Which would be the better speaker for my needs? I mostly play clean with a bit of reverb and rely on a select few pedals for dirt tones.

Thanks again for the help!

 

[Supertwang]

Either speaker is fine.. I’d try both then decide which to keep installed

 

[BB]

Thanks Stang. Appreciate it. I just rechecked on the G10N40 and it turns out to be 16ohm, so no go.

I've heard good and not so good on the Tube 10-30, but for $29 and free shipping, I better just buy it. It has to be an improvement over the stock speaker....at least, I think! Hope?

 

[Supertwang]

I’ve owned the 10/30 speaker. It wasn’t my thing but I think it would prob be a seriously great upgrade from the OEM speaker.

 

[PhredE]

Sorry I don't have any useful suggestions. The only thing I can say is when I search for a speaker replacement, I try to dig up as much info as possible on the thing being replaced (as much as it is possible with an OEM unit). Sometimes, there just isn't any real info to go on. But, sometimes, digging around online or even posting about it somewhere like on TDPRI will uncover good info by people.
OEM speakers generally are pretty basic and underwhelming. Which ever speaker you choose, it will probably be a noticeable improvement.

 

[VintageSG]

The basic Celestion Tube-10 and TEN-30 models are fine once they've had a few hours of use. Initially though, you may be underwhelmed if your hearing is as skewed as mine seems to be.
If you do buy a TEN-30 and find it harsh and 'sterile' sounding, play loud with a lot of fuzz or distortion for a while. Softens them up no end.
They often crop up as pulls from combo amps because people don't give them time to soften in. You may wish to take advantage of that.
I've had many of them and consider them a decent speaker in solid state amps.

Another budget beauty is the Jensen MOD 10-35 'Warmer' in tone than the Celestion ( to my ears ) and a little bass light. Nothing an EQ shift doesn't overcome.

 

[Chiogtr4x]

I’ve owned the 10/30 speaker. It wasn’t my thing but I think it would prob be a seriously great upgrade from the OEM speaker.

That's the way I feel about that speaker; not bad just boring.

A few more $$ ( assuming impedance is OK) for a Jensen Mod 10-35 is IMO, a better speaker

 

[uriah1]

The mods are a good value too

 

[Tone Quest]

About 15 years ago I had a Peavey Envoy 110. I changed the speaker to an Eminence Legend 10 - 50. Very nice sound upgrade. I know it's not one of the two you mentioned, but it would be worth checking out on the used market. Just my 2 cents.

 

[tonepoet333]

I put an 8 ohm Eminence Ragin Cajun in my Envoy 110. It works fine.

8 ohm speakers will read between 5 to 8 ohms with a meter.

tonepoet
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[schmee]

I posted some time ago about a replacement speaker for my late 80's, pre trans-tube Peavey Envoy 110. Since I run on an extremely tight budget, I need something fairly inexpensive, yet able to help improve the headroom and tone beyond what the stock speaker offers.

I found a 10" Celestion Tube 10 30 for $29 new. I found a Celestion G10N-40 for $30 used. Both are 8ohms while the stock Peavey speaker is 6ohms. Any issues with that? Which would be the better speaker for my needs? I mostly play clean with a bit of reverb and rely on a select few pedals for dirt tones.

Thanks again for the help!

What more do you need from your speaker? More robust low tones or ...?
6 ohms? That's probably just the reading on a VOM. 8 ohm speakers often measure at ~6 ohms.

Those are fairly light duty speakers and a good robust speaker will provide more volume and low end etc.
More wattage rating = more volume and low end .... usually.... and more $ !
But there are Eminence speakers like a 1058 that get you there and are often available used very reasonable...

 

[Tone Quest]

Just a tip on the Jensen MOD speakers. With distortion they get 'fizzy'. I had a pair in a Fender Princeton Chorus amp, and discovered that. Didn't matter what pedal I used. Just sayin.

 

[uriah1]

The mods are a good value too

Never had one..just heard stuff..and it is cheap.
I would rather get a used good speaker than a new (value) one.

 

[W.L.Weller]

I just rechecked on the G10N40 and it turns out to be 16ohm, so no go.

Not sure if you've already made a decision, but it's not true that you can't use a higher-impedance speaker (16Ω instead of the original 8Ω) in a solid state amp like your Envoy. The higher-impedance speaker will be a little quieter than the lower-impedance one, but since you said that your main sound is clean with pedals added for distortion, I don't get the impression that you're running the Envoy with every knob on 10.

Solid state amps have a minimum impedance (generally 4Ω or 8Ω) but unlike amps with power tubes and output transformers, they don't need to be matched exactly. Here's a solid state Fender that came stock with two 8Ω speakers. I swapped them out for two 16Ω speakers, it's still louder than anyone can get away with: