1. Win a Broadcaster or one of 3 Teles! The annual Supporting Member Giveaway is on. To enter Click Here. To see all the prizes and full details Click Here. To view the thread about the giveaway Click Here.

On this Date - Oct 20 1977 Lynyrd Skynyrd

Discussion in 'Bad Dog Cafe' started by uriah1, Oct 20, 2020.

  1. Hatfield92

    Hatfield92 Tele-Holic Silver Supporter

    Age:
    46
    Posts:
    940
    Joined:
    Jan 24, 2019
    Location:
    Largo, Florida, USA
    Every band I was in from roughly 1990 (sophomore year of high school) through last year played Simple Man. At least half those bands played more Skynyrd than just that one. They were definitely a profound influence on at least two generations of southern rockers.

    But better than the Allmans? Come on, man. That’s like comparing Otis Redding to John Coltrane. Both were great, but one was on another level entirely musically.
     
    Tommyd55, Bassman8 and Frodebro like this.
  2. Bob Womack

    Bob Womack Tele-Afflicted

    Posts:
    1,420
    Joined:
    May 28, 2016
    Location:
    Between Clever and Stupid
    I remember the day well. I was to college and the dorm was a castle on top of a mountain. I got up, had breakfast, then heard the (sketchy) news on the radio. I cut classes and spent the rest of the day by the radio, praying for them and catching the latest news.

    Bob
     
    elihu likes this.
  3. Frodebro

    Frodebro Doctor of Teleocity Ad Free Member

    Age:
    51
    Posts:
    16,136
    Joined:
    Aug 17, 2012
    Location:
    Seattle
    Definitely. The Allmans were in a league of their own, kinda like the Beatles of Southern Rock.
     
  4. loco gringo

    loco gringo Tele-Holic Gold Supporter

    Posts:
    831
    Joined:
    Jul 14, 2016
    Location:
    The Altered State
    I was 15. Saw them the year before. Had tickets to the show they were supposed to play on October 22.
     
    Last edited: Oct 21, 2020
  5. Andy B

    Andy B Friend of Leo's Silver Supporter

    Posts:
    2,354
    Joined:
    Mar 16, 2003
    Location:
    Castle Rock, Colorado
    RIP!
     
  6. alnicopu

    alnicopu Friend of Leo's

    Posts:
    3,929
    Joined:
    Oct 3, 2009
    Location:
    The city
    I have the album they were promoting back then. Has all the bling inside. Including the poster of tour dates AFTER the crash.
     
  7. Mike Eskimo

    Mike Eskimo Telefied Ad Free Member

    Posts:
    22,290
    Joined:
    Nov 9, 2008
    Location:
    Detroit

    What’s “better” mean ?

    Why those bands ever get compared to one another boggles my mind.

    Skynyrd didn’t improvise/“jam”. The ABB did.

    And - Good Lord Jesus :rolleyes: - comparisons go both ways .

    Yeah, the ABB were on another level musically but - compare their level of improv/group dynamics to let’s say , Miles’s mid 60’s band with Shorter/Hancock/Carter/Williams or one of the iterations of the Jazz Messengers and, well...what level are they on now ?

    Everything about this is great - and I love the ABB band. (Need em both)

     
    Last edited: Oct 21, 2020
  8. Jakeboy

    Jakeboy Tele-Afflicted

    Posts:
    1,579
    Joined:
    Jul 26, 2008
    Location:
    Sedalia, MO
    Skynyrd were great. Ed King Was hugely important on the early albums. Allen was my fave. He just ripped. Played with fire and abandon. Free Bird solo was one take. Boom.
    Loved Gary too. Great slide player and just a great guitarist.
    Gaines was different. Took it to a new level with the country and hybrid picking. Love his soloing on Bird with Allen on the live album.
    Would have loved to have had a few more albums with him.
     
    Hatfield92 and brookdalebill like this.
  9. Bassman8

    Bassman8 Tele-Holic Silver Supporter

    Posts:
    926
    Joined:
    Feb 17, 2018
    Location:
    Centrally South PA
    The Allmans were a band from the south that played rock (and blues etc.), not a "southern rock" band. Both huge bands in their own right but way too different to warrant a "best" determination. I don't remember any band geting the 'Southern Rock' tag until Skynryd came along and that seems very appropriate. In one of my earliest basement bands someone put up a poster of Allen and his Explorer...too cool. Wasn't long after that the tragedy happened. Seems like yesterday and 100 years ago at the same time.
     
  10. Tommyd55

    Tommyd55 Tele-Holic

    Posts:
    564
    Joined:
    Sep 25, 2013
    Location:
    Southern Louisiana
    I was there for that one too..! Saw some good shows on that stage back in the 70's
    Steppenwolf, Elton John, Steve Miller off the top of my head.
     
    brookdalebill likes this.
  11. Telecastoff1

    Telecastoff1 Tele-Afflicted

    Age:
    68
    Posts:
    1,085
    Joined:
    Apr 28, 2009
    Location:
    Northern River Rat
    That was a horrible event I will never forget!
     
  12. Nightclub Dwight

    Nightclub Dwight Tele-Afflicted

    Posts:
    1,496
    Joined:
    Aug 12, 2016
    Location:
    Pittsburgh
    This is not the thread to determine which band was best. Today we celebrate the lost. (I'm a few day late, but you know what I mean.)
     
  13. uriah1

    uriah1 Telefied Gold Supporter

    Posts:
    22,510
    Joined:
    Feb 12, 2011
    Location:
    Around
    They were one of the best part of the southern rock insurgence.
    I also liked Ozark Mt daredevils, Black oak arkansas, Marshall Tucker, Molly Hatchet, Grinderswitch..etc

    I was so close to seeing Skynrd. I think at the Scope or Hampton roads, I went to a concert to see Skynrd
    and something happened and they did not show. Had 5 hours of Marshall Tucker.
     
    oldgofaster likes this.
  14. otterhound

    otterhound Poster Extraordinaire

    Posts:
    8,518
    Joined:
    Dec 14, 2008
    Location:
    Manheim Pa.
    And who , in their right mind , would have thought that Joe would still be with us .
     
    Mike Eskimo, uriah1 and brookdalebill like this.
  15. brookdalebill

    brookdalebill Tele Axpert Ad Free Member

    Age:
    63
    Posts:
    86,718
    Joined:
    Nov 15, 2009
    Location:
    Austin, Tx
    And I’m so glad he is.
    He’s a national treasure, IMO.
     
    Mike Eskimo likes this.
  16. uriah1

    uriah1 Telefied Gold Supporter

    Posts:
    22,510
    Joined:
    Feb 12, 2011
    Location:
    Around
    Saw James Gang many times..great!! Never saw his later years stuff..barnstorm or eagles or turkeys whatever they were called.
     
    Mike Eskimo likes this.
  17. zimbo

    zimbo Friend of Leo's

    Posts:
    2,726
    Joined:
    Jan 15, 2007
    Location:
    Rochester, NY
    Very sad day. Plus it's unfortunate that the 2 Skynyrd bands are still fighting. The Artimus Pyle Band and the Lynyrd Skynyrd band.
     
    uriah1 likes this.
  18. Preacher

    Preacher Friend of Leo's

    Posts:
    4,066
    Joined:
    Apr 17, 2007
    Location:
    Big D
    HAHA I never thought of that. I know that Steve was in a few bands but nothing that was as big as Skynard. I am sure they had a ton of guitarist wanting to pick up that gig and I can see Cassie mentioning her brother plays guitar... LOL
     
  19. Ron R

    Ron R Friend of Leo's Silver Supporter

    Age:
    54
    Posts:
    3,766
    Joined:
    Mar 23, 2016
    Location:
    Raleigh, NC
    All due respect to the ABB, but Skynyrd always had that rough, muscular edge to their music that appealed more to me.
    Really not worth getting too upset over, as each carved their own place in rock music history.
     
  20. Hatfield92

    Hatfield92 Tele-Holic Silver Supporter

    Age:
    46
    Posts:
    940
    Joined:
    Jan 24, 2019
    Location:
    Largo, Florida, USA
    All due respect to Skynyrd, they never produced anything as rough and muscular as Whipping Post.

    But I get what you’re saying. Ronnie wrote good, accessible songs. They rehearsed them to death until they were finely polished. When you saw them live, it was like the Eagles... a polished act, but little if any variation from show to show.

    I know I’m in the minority, but I prefer CSNY to the Eagles.... and, yes, the ABB to Skynyrd. Not that I don’t love those other two. I just find the real magic in the willingness to push the envelope, and to play off the cuff as opposed to strictly by rote.
     
IMPORTANT: Treat everyone here with respect, no matter how difficult!
No sex, drug, political, religion or hate discussion permitted here.