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Discussion in 'Bad Dog Cafe' started by Mr_Martin, Sep 15, 2020 at 9:01 AM.
Just for the info, this was the first MTB made by Joe Breezer:
I loved the Rockhopper in the 90s, great bike.
When my frame broke, a mechanic at the shop where I bought the Specialized Enduro enthusiastically said “I bet we can get Specialized to do what they call a ‘crash replacement’ and get you a hefty discount on a new Specialized rig!” I was skeptical due to it being a 12 year old bike, but his enthusiasm pulled me in. Ummmmm, nope, denied by Specialized. No surprise there, I don’t blame em.
For my next bike I ended up going with a much smaller California company due to their good reviews and great price point at a local shop. There’s no joining of carbon and aluminum because the carbon rear triangle is completely independent of the aluminum front triangle. I couldn’t afford the full carbon version, so I’ll take some carbon over none! Especially since the rear end is where my Specialized broke. This is my 4th summer on this rig and it’s been a great bike. Relatively light(5 lbs lighter than my Enduro with the same amount of travel), 6” of travel front and rear with 27.5” tubeless wheels. It’s been a really fun and reliable ride.
Here a german website with tons of old MTB Catalogs:
Any Devinci riders out there? I heard that they were quite the favourite mount for many, and especially us Canadian enthusiasts. So far I am not seeing any mention of this marque, or are they just considered 'old hat' these days?
We all know XT stuff ain't cheap, but this XT group was last made about 5 or 6 years ago and hard to find. I managed to get an average of about 45% off everything and some stuff even cheaper. The set of XT 780 Shifters was only $54 instead of $159 approx.
The bike stock was in the mid $500 range. In 1991 dollars, that was spendy. The first upgrades were probably close to $450. I think I did those in early '92?
The recent rebuild with custom wheels being made has cost me about $830. It's only money. Besides, trying to find a decent XC bike with the geometry I could halfway like, would cost me a lot more than that.
I do all my own labor, so don't have to pay someone to do it. I know how to build and set up bikes.
I love this frame and it fits me like a glove. It is an 18 incher.
I have ridden the new rolling couch type bikes. I don't like the slack headtube and the long wheelbase. I don't like riding with that upright posture. Harder for me to climb on them. I have to ride a different way that I don't like. The position I have to get into to keep the front tire on the ground and to track straight is horrible to me. With the short stems and headsets, you are a lot further back of the front tire with the same reach and it makes the front end lighter on uphills. It makes it less scary going down though.
I like bikes you can drive, not bikes that drive you. I don't even drop my seat to go down.
At my age, I am a 26'er for life!!
Thanks for the shoutout about my film, Klunkerz. The film examines the genesis of off road cycling in American from around 1953 to 1983. I've got a 1935 Klunkerz with 10 speeds, a 1980 MountainBike that was welded by Tom Ritchey and build up by Gary Fisher and Charlie Kelly and an '82 StumpJumper. There's some twangy Teles on the soundtrack, too.
The first StumpJumper rolled off the line in late 1981. It was equipped with the exact same parts spec (T/A cranks, Mafac brakes, etc.) that Gary Fisher and Charlie Kelly used on their MountainBikes starting in 1979. Mike had previously built road bikes and had distribution. Mike showed it at the West Coast Bike Show and took orders for the first 500.
Define old school....I have a 2000 Trek Fuel 90, 20 years old, v-brakes, but full sus so dunno if that qualifies...Have a rigid 1990 Schwinn Sierra with cantilevers, that's pretty old school, love them both, although the Schwinn needs too many parts to think about riding ever again. The Fuel is still awesome, just need to blast gunk out of the front shifter, fails to catch shifting to the big ring at times....but it's been a couple of years since I could ride, due to this and that health problems, most recently hip replacements, so.... I have all fall/winter to get this sorted or source a NOS Shimano LX front shifter...26" tires, 3x27 speeds, it's pretty old school by modern standards.....big ol' beer can sized downtube/aluminium frame. I love the bike, dunno if I'll be able to source a suitable front fork or rear shock should they give up the ghost, though....not a pic of mine, but looks like this, although my frame is black and all stickers have been removes from shock/fork/frame... and no disc brakes
good advice... yep, warranty only applies to the original owner...
lifetime warranty on my SC bronson... that and the threaded BB are the reasons i bought it...
Understand the context here and any sarcasm - several Trek staff and the owners are among personal friends and acquaintances. I've been a trail builder for a long time where they test stuff, and in the 1980s I worked for a firm that was a key vendor in their learning to be better manufacturers.
That bike is from a learning to be better copycats era and still from an era where MTBs were for the most part too influenced by racers. They are pleasant bikes much better than what Trek made just before that but it's still a 26r from an era when you rode on vs in bikes.
Most important is I've helped a lot of people get their riding, fitness and agility improved. Don't spend a lot on the bike. Few people need 3 rings in front. Even if you don't plan on a new bike right now, go test more up to date bikes to know what's out there. Mostly think about having safe fun and getting your self at some fitness. There are several here who will offer help and sincerely wish you the best and say start riding today! Good luck!
93'ish KHS Montana Comp was my winter ride with studded tires, etc. until last winter. Chose to retire it now since the entire drive train needs overhauling but it's in the garage and could be resurrected.
Sorry,I don't have a pic handy.
I picked up this Trek 930 earlier this year at a pawnshop for $45 lol. XT/XTR components and a Rock Shox Judy fork. Super solid bike.
Still run my '85, pre-production Rockhopper. Put a headset in it, last week.
When I realised Specialised were shifting to alloy frames, I bought one of the last steel Rockhoppers, in '98. Rides fine- but the quality of components on the '85 were amazing, at the price point. Mine has taken a beating- but the original Specialised hubs, bottom bracket and crankset (not the rings) are still rolling.
I have an old Trek 850, which doesn't go off the road these days. I just use it around town, and for getting down to the train station, etc.
A bit old and battered, but still mostly functioning. A bit like me, really...
Gotcha...the bike is fine, other than getting the shifter to catch for the big ring. I virtually always used all three rings when off the road...and fwiw, I’m 5’6”, don’t feel a need for larger than 26” wheels...but I’m one of those stubborn old bastards
Love seeing those old bikes. I still have my circa 1987 Rockhopper and a 1997 Gary Fisher. I'm old school, I like riding on steel. I'd take Titanium if I could afford it, but I doubt I'll ever ride carbon fiber.
I still contend that my stable of 1950's Raleigh 3 speeds are right up there with the Klunkers guys. Much respect to the Repack crew. They were visionaries who literally started the sport. But those old Raleigh 3 speeds were sold throughout the British empire, in many places without good roads. Back in the day people just called it riding.
Those Chris Chance and Yeti bikes get my heart racing. When I was in school in San Francisco I once dated a girl longer than I should have because she had a Chris Chance. Maybe a Yo Betty, I don't recall.
Anyhow, cool subject.
I have an ‘88 Jamis Dakota made in Florida that I bought brand new for $500. Still have and still ride it. Love it.
my kid rides my old trek 930.
well, we all want to stay safe