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Oil Can Style Delay Pedals

Discussion in 'The Stomp Box' started by Texicaster, Feb 20, 2020.

  1. Texicaster

    Texicaster Friend of Leo's

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    ¡Bueno!

    I heard a demo of the Old Blood Endeavors Black Fountain and fell in love with it!...But hard to tell online..

    I researched the types and found Catalinbread Adineko and supposedly closer to true oil can tone but I didn't dig the demos. Way too spacey!

    The Black Fountain sounded like perfectly dialed for country Tele trem/reverb! Of course lots of unknown variables on videos.

    But I want to try one but nothing available locally...

    Any advice or reviews? Anyone own one or the other and love/hate it?

    Other options?

    Thanks!
     
  2. Daddy Dom

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    I don't know what oil-can is. I know what bucket-brigade is, and tape delay. :)
     
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  3. Texicaster

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    They are actually pretty cool! I'd love to try a real one....

    " Instead of magnetic tape, these units house what appears to be a tuna can filled with oil which works as a dielectric, i.e. it can store a charge or signal. A motor drives a rubber belt to spin a flywheel fitted with a pickup inside the can."!!!

    Old school!

    here's a break down...https://www.effectrode.com/knowledge-base/history-of-delay/
     
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    Crazy. I never heard of them. Very neat old tech. But in use it sounds more like a reverb to me.
     
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    Super interesting! I don't understand how it works, but maybe you will enjoy this video I found:

     
  6. Texicaster

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    Yea!

    One of the Black Fountain videos I found was more like the way I mix reverb and tremolo! That's why I wonder if it's "necessary" for my rig...
     
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    I have a Behringer analog delay that essentially comes across like an echo'ish reverb for anything but clean single notes, and I don't see myself using it. So I know the answer for myself on how useful it would be.
     
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    Listen to the ZZ Top album “Rhythmeen”—there’s an old DeArmond oil-can tremolo all over that album...
     
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    I demoed the Adineko. Pretty cool pedal. I was searching for a different kind of delay and it fits the bill.

    Caveat: I am not much of a delay user, so just keep that in mind.
     
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    I remember this being advertised as an oil can style delay about a decade ago:



    Not sure how accurate it is, but I do remember it being a darn good delay.
     
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    I don't know about the specific pedals mentioned as I've never auditioned them, but I have done DSP simulations of what I thought oil can delays were doing. It's a very cool sound as the modulation is synchronized with the delay time and if you turn up the regeneration a bit, starts to get pretty trippy.
     
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    I listened to lots of YouTube videos (for whatever that's worth) and eventually tried the Blackfountain and the Adineko in person.

    I took the Adineko home.

    In person, between the two, it wasn't even close.

    The Adineko is probably my favorite delay type reverby pedal...and I have the Catalinbread Echo Rec and the Belle Epoch Deluxe, I have the EHx Memory Man T1100 and the Oceans 11, and I have the EQD Afterneath.

    Those are all good pedals, but the Adineko just has that something. Sounds so damn good. Easy to use. Quick to find a good sound. Doesn't really have a bad sound.

    YMMV.

    To my ears, out of all the YouTube videos of each pedal, and the few comparisons I could find, this is about the most accurate comparison (to what I experienced in person) that I found...
     
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    Thanks!

    i'm getting the impression the Adineko is more ambient. But I really like the the BF at ~4:50. I skipped around a little but could find them getting the slap back from the Adineko....

    How's it for county pickin'?

    Thanks!
     
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    The Adineko will do a rockabilly type slap. After all, the moving blend of the 2 positioned heads in the oil can are similar to the 3 tape heads of a Space Echo (pretty well regarded for rockabilly). So both can do a rockabilly type slap, and ambient type delay, spacy, reverby sounds.

    As for chicken pickin, no idea what you'd be after for that other than some sweet, sweet compression, a single slap, and a dash or reverb or tremolo... so I'd recommend the Cali76 Deluxe, anything with one quick repeat (ie. almost any and every delay out there including the Adineko - watch 8:55 to 10:15 in the youtube vid I posted above for the setup and the sound), and just a hint of Blackface or Brownface amp reverb or tremolo.

    Again, YMMV.
     
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  16. Texicaster

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    I didn't men chickin' pickin' but that sorta Mystery Train riff he does in the demo you added. For some reason they don't play that way with the Adineko..

    Thanks!
     
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    Well they made this:
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    which has nothing to do with the effect that's the topic of this thread, just a silly name they chose.
     
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    I had an Adineko back when they first came out. I really enjoyed it but I found myself getting too caught up in that sound. Almost like it was taking over. Then Catalinbread had all that drama and I sold it. I do miss it now and then though.
     
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    I put an Adineko on my board a couple years ago just to try something different and it hasn't come off since. It's hard to quantify, but it just speaks to me somehow.

    I also have a CB Belle Epoch and Echorec that I like... a lot. But the Adineko is just cooler to me.
     
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  20. reckless toboggan

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    Exactly. Hard to describe but easy to hear.
     
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