"Offset" Guitars; Is This Really a Thing?

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  1. Diytelecaster

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    My first offset. Got it a few weeks ago. Great balance. Now my number 2 DSC_0712.JPG
     
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    Wow, seven pages in a day...….Who'd a thunk that offsets were that popular?
     
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    I bought a Wilkinson off Amazon but the posts were wrong for the JM. It was only $12. So then I got the "LP" style one from Guitar Fetish. I can see that the Wilkinson saddles are below the level of the bridge surface so it would be smooth to rest your hand there. The LP bridge saddles poke up. However the LP saddles are way easier to adjust it seems. And the Wilkinson ones, since they mount from below, can be shimmed with strips of aluminum (e.g. beer can) if you want to try to match the neck radius. Apparently the JMJM and Deluxe JMs have 9" radius necks and 12" radius bridges? I didn't check it myself but I like the way the guitar feels and plays with a not very low action.
     
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    The biggest problem with jms and jags is the bridge. I prefer tuneomatic versions but retain the fender tremolo
     
  6. Jupiter

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    yes, Strat waists are offset, just not as much as a Jazzmaster.
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    And here I thought the outlines of the Tele and Strat were identical except for the upper horn?
     
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    Who knew there was life after "tonewood"?
     
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    Nobody knows that yet!
     
  11. EsquireOK

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    A plain Duo Sonic is not. A Duo Sonic II (which uses the Mustang silhouette) is. Duo Sonics had a near equal waist top and bottom, and all of them were 22.5” scale. Duo Sonic IIs had an offset waist, and mostly came in 24” scale (though some still came in 22.5”). Same basic deal with Musicmasters, though when the design changed, they didn’t get the “II” that the newer Duo Sonics got. They were just called “Musicmaster” all the way through.

    These are major differences. That said, pedantism (pedantery?) is inherent to almost any subsection of any hobby, not just the offset guitar niche.
     
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    Given the confusion I think it’s reasonable to suggest that the old Fender decal that says “offset waist” only refers to the waist and not the whole guitar.

    While we can’t stop owners of offset waist guitars from claiming their entire guitar is offset, a true offset guitar tips over when leaned against an amp.

    It also resists any and all pedants who bicker over the definition.
    If the git don’t tip you must acquit.
     
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    They're the rage. offsets.jpg
     
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    yep, if you lean it on an amp or try to put it on a regular guitar stand.. and it falls over.... offset..:twisted::D
     
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    I have to say, as far as comfort, pickups, control layout and bridge/vibrato, the JM just ticks all the boxes for me. The Strat trem bothers me as does the volume knob location. The Strat is comfy, though. The Tele is not as comfy but I love the pickups and control layout. I don’t think about hipsters and their offsets. I really just like the guitars! I promise. I will confess, I listened to a lot of My Bloody Valentine in college in the early 90’s, though.


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    The new duosonic is still offset, just not as dramatic as other models. The lowest point of the two cuts on either side are not alligned, making it offset.
     
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    For clarification:

    Duo Sonic (not offset, 22.5" scale – shorter than a Squier Strat Mini):

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    Duo Sonic II (offset, mostly 24" scale, but 22.5" too):

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    Fender no longer make them in the ultra short scale, even when using the original non-offset bodies that only came that way in the beginning. And they erroneously put the non-offset Duo Sonics that they now make in the Offset Series. Not to mention that they muck things up even more by having hardtail "Mustangs" that are actually more like Duo Sonic IIs.
     
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    Thanks @61fury ! ;)

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