NPD - Source Audio Nemesis Delay

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Yes... oink oink Gear Pig me just posted a NPD for an SA Ventris Reverb last week...

Now, I have obtained the Source Audio (same form factor) Nemesis Delay... Both are actually replacements which had to be sold survive (with just about every piece of gear, guitar, stomper, amp, mic, speaker). To me, this is the Top of the Rock for a team of reverb and delay pedals. I hope so, dishing out $760.00 for 2 pedals is probably insane to most.. (Ventris Reverb, $430, Nemesis Delay, $330).

There are and is a lot of competition and competitors out there for the multi-delay and multi-reverb pedal types. You may own what you love, and you have (maybe) reasons you spent any cash at all on anything. MOOER now makes multi-effect type pedals, and Strymon, Line 6 and others are at the top of the category.

The "big dog" for many folks right now seems to be the Line 6 Helix (full board, plus several smaller and at different price point options of the same contraption and technology). Sweetwater has them for $1,699.99,

Strymon has their "trifecta" of Timeline/delay ($449.00), Big Sky/reverb ($479.00), and Mobius/modulation ($449.00). Both Line 6 and Strymon have amazing sounds packed inside. I'll give them all of that, they've spent the time to make the goods, and I won't take anything away from that, even though both brands are far outside of my choices for gear. I have really some simple reasons why "not" Strymon or Line 6... It's just "me"...

The #1 main reason being...

For one, as a human being I HATE reading. Both Strymon and Line 6 (and BOSS, DD-500, RV-500, MD-500) have these thick (I call them) "War and Peace (novel) sized" manuals. You have to learn the language of what does what to what before you can even tool down the road with a couple decent sounds. To me, and for my use, that is just too much reading.

I'm an old-school single-pedal guy. I still have my 1979 ProCo Rat Distortion... that I bought brand new in 1979... one switch and three intuitive knobs... now they tell me it's "vintage" and worth a bah-jillion dollars, and one of the best distortion pedals ever made, which many to follow have cloned again and again. But the Rat was the first (well, it was the first Rat, anyways). She's seen some warfare, but still jams hard when you click him on... (recent picture, note surface rust and big dent in top, LOL)
ProCo Rat Distortion box settings - 01 (02-16-11).jpg


I've been playing guitar since 1975 and I've seen a lot of things come and go. Around the same year (1979-ish) I also had an ARP Avatar guitar synthesizer. Years later I learned that ARP only ever sold 300 units of Avatars to the public, and because of spending million on the Avatar's research and development, ARP went out of business. The Avatar was the self same analog synth as the ARP Odyssey, except with a hex pickup that fired the synth rather than a piano type keyboard. If you want to hear the ARP Avatar on a recording, check out Led Zep, In Through the Out Door album. Jimmy Page had one...

I also leap frogged over every single rack mount all-in-one preamp/effects doo-dad that dropped out of NAMM in the 1980s. Rack mount was about the last I saw of MXR until they surfaced later. A whole long list of manufacturers got their manual writers employed in those days describing what a "parameter" was... and on page 12,752,322, you had a list of internal "parameters" (whatever the Hell "parameters" were... they lost me at "parameter"... LOL)

OK, so I like single pedals, so why Source Audio, then?

Their Ventris reverb and Nemesis delays have incredible digital effects inside. If you look at the front panel of knobs and windows on some gear, it is like trying to read Chinese (and you just made it passed Dick and Jane) (Yes, the "Rub, Spot, run!" Dicks and Janes...). But the front panel of the Ventris and Nemesis are intuitive. They don't have any Chinese language knobs named in some new language you can only learn by reading their version of War and Peace.

It might be something to point out... neither of these Source Audio pedals come with any kind of a paper manual. You can download a manual from their website in PDF, but the point I'm making is that 1) they sound every bit as good or better than the Strymon or Line 6 effects... but you take the SA pedals out of the box, and you are making great sounds and able to change them in seconds, not mponths after reading a manual...

What about depth?

OK, so you want to tap into a Source Audio One Series pedal on your PC or MAC?... They offer a free download of their Neuro Desktop Editor (for PC or MAC, your choice). The GUI interface for the SA devices in the editor are also very easy to understand. They all pretty much have a virtual knob you can grab and turn with your mouse, and/or drop down menu you click and choose from. You don't need to be a math wiz to tell their pedals what to do. And each SA One Series pedal has a distinct large list of algorithms inside (accessed by the editor software)... For example...

Using the editor, you can access these effect type with the Nemesis Delay:
Nemesis Algorithm list.jpg


The GUI (graphic user interface) window for the Nemesis is straight forward if you've ever used any kind of DAW plugin...
Nemesis GUI.jpg


(there is actually more to the GUI view that I couldn't catch in one screen print)
 

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Another reason for "why Source Audio" is that all (but maybe 1) of their One Series pedals has extra algorithms using their Neuro Desktop Editor... thing is, if you don't like computers, and hate manuals, you don't need either of those to enjoy an SA One Series pedal.

I have the editor on my PC, and I can do screen prints of the algorithm lists for each pedal... the Nemesis algo list is in my last post...

Source Audio Atlas Compressor GUI Interface, knob names will be familiar for anyone with compressor experience. From here you can save compressor settings to the pedal's memory slot (eac SAOS pedal has between 4-8 onboard presets accessed from the pedal's switches... AND all are MIDI capable, so each have 128 MIDI presets available)
Atlas GUI.jpg


Their most algo's are inside their L.A. Lady Overdrive. In fact they include ALL of the algo's from their King Maker Fuzz and After Shock Bass Distortion... in the list of algo's inside the Lady accessible using the editor...

Here's the algo's inside the LA Lady OD... (there are 50 of them, I had to do 2 screen prints, lol)
LA Lady  Algorithm list 01.jpg

LA Lady  Algorithm list 02.jpg


The GUI view for the L.A. Lady is this...
LA Lady GUI.jpg


I might take a brief second to say... all of the SAOS pedals are STEREO... or, if you go MONO in on any of them, the first pedal of theirs you plug in to creates a stereo image.

Source Audio L.A. Lady Overdrive - 01.jpg


Simple front panel, as deep as I'd ever need to go in technology with the editor...

Also, the have their Lunar Phaser... and inside of it are all of the algorithms for their SAOS Mercury Flanger and Gemini Chorus... so to get all their One Series modulation effects in one box... you buy one box, and run the editor for all of the other sounds. For example, you can save a chorus of flanger preset inside the Lunar Phaser, using the editor to call up the correct effect algorithm (I never knew what the hell the word "algorithm" was, either... I thought it was some from a college level Calculus math class...)

Here is the Algo list and GUI for the Lunar Phaser...
Lunar Phaser  Algorithm list.jpg

(12 modulation effects)

And the Lunar GUI...
Lunar Phaser GUI.jpg


You can view each GUI and drop down list for yourself. Download the Neuro Desktop Editor for your PC or MAC (choose the latest version for the best PC compatibility) Here:
(you can also put the editor on yout iPhone of Android, too)

Once the editor is downloaded and installed... click here...
Neuro Desktop 01.jpg


Then do this...
Neuro Desktop 02 (upper right hand corner to click).jpg


Now I'm hoping they complete the "trifecta" of pedals and give us a multi-modulation effect in the Nemesis/Ventris form factor. The lunar Phaser and it's algo's can do phase, flange, chorus, vibe and a resonator... just this size in their line is not as versatile as the Nemesis/Collider/Ventris form factor, giving us a nem/Vent form factor multi-modulation would step up the competition for the Strymon Timeline/BigSky/Mobius trifects, and the BOSS DD-500/RV-500/MD-500 boxes... BOSS has also re-released the same technology inside a newer, smaller form factor for a few dollars less... Now Strymon and Eventide are issuing smaller-sized boxes in the same way for their effects selections... Eventide has several in this "trifecta" way of looking at effects... they have the (all are $499.00 these days) SPACE (reverb), the TimeFactor (delay), the PitchFactor (pitch shifting), and the ModFactor (modulation). (maybe that's a "quadrafecta??). They are now offering a smaller form factor for several effect types (priced at $249.00), such as the BLACKHOLE (reverb), the MICROPITCH (pitch shifting), the ULTRATAP (delay/reverb), TRICERACHORUS (chorus), and the ROSE BIT-BUCKET BRIGADE DELAY (analog delay)

Eventide (founded 1971) goes back before there was a Strymon (founded 2004) or a Line 6 (founded 1996)... (you might remember Strymon used to be "Damage Control")

Back before the Internet, there were these things called "mail order catalogs" which big music retailers would send in the mail, and folks like me (when I was like 15 years old) would read about gear... and Eventide were the most super expensive doo-dads out there... as was Lexicon effects (which later got globalized, and they put out Asian-made crap and IMHO, ruine "it" for me, after not one but TWO Lexicon LXP-5 half-rack space devices both went belly up on me with light usage. Lexicon changed a lot... they went from the EIC cabled power supply of the 70s, in the 80s, etc they cheapened their devices and now they used wall-warts... My favorite Lexicon device I've owned was a pre-MIDI Lexicon PCM-42-MEO... the "MEO" which signifies that this model had the 5 second delay memory option installed from the factory... actually 4,800 milliseconds on the front panel. The only "clock" it had was a metronome clock output on the back panel... but one could still create looping (in 1983) with the metronome output and playing to the click... the click did not come over the guitar speaker... I plugged it into a small Pignose amp (which I've had since 1979). The regular non-MEO model had 2,400ms of delay. Lexicon also goes way back as well, the original company was founded in 1971.

Source Audio was a personal discovery for me. My first experience was with their stellar customer service department (there is a story in my Ventris thread)... Then they simply make incredible sounding pedals "for the rest of us" I like to say... In a time when babies are born with a cell phone attached to their head, and have a new laptop by age 2... I'm glad Source Audio doesn't only make super-techno effects that are too hard for an old fart like me to use... I hate reading, and I haven't needed a manual to dive in the anything I have from Source Audio. (Howbeit there re some curiosities I will need to dog in with... at least I can use the pedal right out of the box... my experience with a BOSS RV-50 (explained in the other Ventris thread (link up top)). Took the RV-500 out of the biox, plugged it in, and hated all 12 of the facoty presets, only way to manipulate the damned thing was to fish around in the manual for the next 6 months or more... not my cup of tea...

Source Audio... kind of like "Earle Grey Black, hot"... as Captain Picard might tell the computer...
 

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Wow...this isn't a post. It's a thread unto itself. So I will keep my reply brief.
I love Source Audio pedals, BUT I've put my Nemesis up for sale because (after two different attempts with it over the past 2-3 years) I found it was just too much pedal for me. I play mostly blues and as a result I don't use delay much. I really like the Nemesis, but found it was just too complex for me. Too many "bells and whistles" for my needs.
So, I'm now awaiting delivery of a Keeley Mag Echo pedal, which I believe will give me the delay I'm seeking without my having to twiddle and tweak with too many knobs, switches and presets.
I have the Source Audio Gemini Chorus and the Source Audio LA Lady Overdrive on my board and they're just what I need...flexible and tweakable without my having to go down the rabbit hole. They're forever pedals for me.
So, a big YES to Source Audio from me...but not the Nemesis.
If Source Audio ever makes a less complicated delay, I'll be happy to wait outside...in the rain..and the wind...and the snow...to get in the door and grab one!
 

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I love the SA platform. The app is undergoing a user centric transformation too so it will only get better. I get it’s not for everyone. But if someone is willing to spend some time learning their controls it’s a near perfect set of tools. Plus the ability set forum has a skajillion patches available.
 

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I decided to save $ - So I purchased the Source Audio Collider(which has reverb and delay on one pedal) vs buying the SA reverb and delay pedals. Source Audio took the best from the reverb and delay pedals and put them on the Collider. Also save space on my board. I purchased the pedal about 2 years ago and I have never looked back. I worked out 8 presets and have not used my PC at all except to save the presets in case the pedal malfunctions and has to be reset (it happended to me one time when I turned on the power to the unit - so beware)
 

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I decided to save $ - So I purchased the Source Audio Collider(which has reverb and delay on one pedal) vs buying the SA reverb and delay pedals. Source Audio took the best from the reverb and delay pedals and put them on the Collider. Also save space on my board. I purchased the pedal about 2 years ago and I have never looked back. I worked out 8 presets and have not used my PC at all except to save the presets in case the pedal malfunctions and has to be reset (it happended to me one time when I turned on the power to the unit - so beware)
I understand that... there is a way to reset to all factory presets on the Nemesis... hold the left switch down, and plug in the power source while holding it down... hold for a few seconds, the light on the top blinks several times, and it most likely wipes whatever was inside and resets to the factory presets
 

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I have Nemesis, Ventris and Vertigo. It's nice having everything accessible with the Neuro Desktop, and having them synced to the DAW via MIDI. But the software is really buggy, it's frustrating. On Nemesis, the filter sweep effect is only applied to the left channel (lame). On Ventris, the dry signal disappears when you change certain settings. You have to go remind it that the analog dry level is turned up. The dual reverbs end up out of phase often in cascade mode, which effectively makes that mode unusable. If you go to turn a 'knob' near the bottom of the screen, the whole screen jumps to put that knob in the center, and the knob gets turned all the way down.
And even with their dedicated power supplies plugged into a Furman power conditioner, they're quite noisy. I've found that if the pedal is bypassed, then using the Neuro Desktop to switch from buffered to true bypass will stop the noise, but it comes back again as soon as you engage the pedal.
And they're not true stereo: if I have a stereo flanger going into the Nemesis in stereo, there are no audible repeats. It sums the stereo input to mono before processing, and the L/R outputs of the flanger are intentionally out of phase, so when mixed together you get no signal, therefore no signal to process delays from. The stereo flanger signal is passed thru but there are no delays.
Ventris operates the same in stereo mode, but you can make it have dedicated processing for L & R by using dual mono mode.
They sound good, do a lot, but for what we paid for them, they really need to work out these bugs and release firmware updates.
 

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Wow...this isn't a post. It's a thread unto itself. So I will keep my reply brief.
I love Source Audio pedals, BUT I've put my Nemesis up for sale because (after two different attempts with it over the past 2-3 years) I found it was just too much pedal for me. I play mostly blues and as a result I don't use delay much. I really like the Nemesis, but found it was just too complex for me. Too many "bells and whistles" for my needs.
So, I'm now awaiting delivery of a Keeley Mag Echo pedal, which I believe will give me the delay I'm seeking without my having to twiddle and tweak with too many knobs, switches and presets.
I have the Source Audio Gemini Chorus and the Source Audio LA Lady Overdrive on my board and they're just what I need...flexible and tweakable without my having to go down the rabbit hole. They're forever pedals for me.
So, a big YES to Source Audio from me...but not the Nemesis.
If Source Audio ever makes a less complicated delay, I'll be happy to wait outside...in the rain..and the wind...and the snow...to get in the door and grab one!
I have a suggestion for you... Seek out a v1 TC Electronic Flashback Delay. (v2 changed the design of the Flashback, gave 3 x Toneprint slots, and not as many choices, plus (to my dismay) v2 did away with the Flashback's tap tempo feature...

You can tell the 2 apart because v2 has more toneprint slots, I'll add a picture below.

The Flashback v1 still gives you several different kinds of delay types, but no rabbit hole. You should be able to pick one up for around $100 on Reverb.com

The main reason I say "v1 not v2" is the tap tempo feature is missing on the v2...

The TC Flashback v1 had one of the most ingenious tap tempo features I've ever seen ...

1) hold the foot swiitch down for 3 seconds... keep holding the switch with your foot, and strike the strings of your guitar to the tempo you want... that's how the tap tempo work on the v1... the v2 changed it to some kind of "MASH" switch ... I think their hold the switc h, scratch the strings type of tp tempot was the easiest to set correctly and best I've ever seen... no idea why tyhe over-thinkers at the TC design team did away with it in version 2...

Here's the front faces of each... notice v2's extra Toneprint slots (I've never even used the PC and a Toneprint for any of my TC pedals...)

Flashback version 1 (aka simply "Flashback")
TC Electronic Flashback Delay v1.jpg


Compared the Flashback v2 (aka simply "Flashback 2") (notice the 3 Toneprint slots on the v2)...
TC Electronic Flashback Delay v2.jpg


Here's a Reverb.com search for "Flashback"... and I have set this up to search by price low to high. This same link will be good today, and if you click on it in a month, it will do the same search but with all new hits, deleting whatever has been sold... very handy way to keep track of something you might want to buy on Reverb...


I got yhe Nemesis because to me it was the top of the line delay that could have a rabbit hole if I wanted to hop down it... and I think for some folks it is overkill... You move one knob and it does something... and if you don't save it and can't remember what you moved, you'll never find the same sound again... here's what I do when I find a setting I like on any pedal... Get out my digital camera (or camera on my phone) and take a quick top-down picture...

Ot, make a quick drawing of the knobs, and pencil in where they are setting...

I fiddled with a TC Spark Boost pedal and had the idea that with all the controls, I may be able to get a nice tranparent grit out of it... I was right... by cranking the treble, lowering the level/output, and increasing the gain knob, it gives a great stackable grit on top of my Lovepedal Kanji 9 overdrive. They work really good together.I wanted to remember that setting, so I took a picture of the knobs...
Spark Booster Treble Boost setting-cr.jpg


There is a guy that bought out a bunch of the TC Spark Boost and Sub'N'Up pedals, and is blowing them out for $110 for the two brand new, never opened pedals... Looks like he still has some of these pedals... here is the FB link if anyone uses FB...
 

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I have Nemesis, Ventris and Vertigo. It's nice having everything accessible with the Neuro Desktop, and having them synced to the DAW via MIDI. But the software is really buggy, it's frustrating. On Nemesis, the filter sweep effect is only applied to the left channel (lame). On Ventris, the dry signal disappears when you change certain settings. You have to go remind it that the analog dry level is turned up. The dual reverbs end up out of phase often in cascade mode, which effectively makes that mode unusable. If you go to turn a 'knob' near the bottom of the screen, the whole screen jumps to put that knob in the center, and the knob gets turned all the way down.
And even with their dedicated power supplies plugged into a Furman power conditioner, they're quite noisy. I've found that if the pedal is bypassed, then using the Neuro Desktop to switch from buffered to true bypass will stop the noise, but it comes back again as soon as you engage the pedal.
And they're not true stereo: if I have a stereo flanger going into the Nemesis in stereo, there are no audible repeats. It sums the stereo input to mono before processing, and the L/R outputs of the flanger are intentionally out of phase, so when mixed together you get no signal, therefore no signal to process delays from. The stereo flanger signal is passed thru but there are no delays.
Ventris operates the same in stereo mode, but you can make it have dedicated processing for L & R by using dual mono mode.
They sound good, do a lot, but for what we paid for them, they really need to work out these bugs and release firmware updates.
This actually great to hear... and I know where you can tell this story and it will have a good positive impact... tell it to Source Audio customer service...



We all need to hear honest reviews like this, and SA needs to know...

I know they have had troubles with their Neuro Desktop... until the most recent (Neuro Desktop 0.8.60 for Windows) the desktop software would NOT run on Windows 7... As soon as you clicked on it, it would open, and then close automatically, except with their latest v0.8.60 editor...
 

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I did the rack thing too, in the late 90s and for many years after that, which included numerous multi-effects processors.

But, about four years ago, I went back to dedicated pedals, and have never looked back.

I have many delay and reverb pedals, spread over numerous pedalboards; but I've found that, in many instances, the Nemesis/Ventris combo are my go-to's, when I want something incredible-sounding, yet easy to dial in.

I also have their EQ2, Lunar and Mercury pedals; but the Nemesis/Ventris combo really hit it out of the park, for me, from Day One.

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You can go nuts, and get knee-deep in their Neuro app, with your computer, or tethered to a smartphone, if you so choose. But, I honestly haven't found the need to to do that, just yet. I got beautiful sounds out of both of these pedals, with just a cursory read of the downloaded manuals, and just fiddling with the knobs.

They're far more intuitive to dial in than many of my other units, or than their appearance might suggest.

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The Nemesis was the first high-end stereo delay pedal I purchased. The Ventris followed, not long after. They're keepers, for sure.

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They're fantastic on keyboards, as well!
 
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Excellent post. All contributors great work ! I spent the extra for the Strymon pedals and the sound great. All that I have ever hear about Source Audio has been heaps of praise.
 

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Yes... oink oink Gear Pig me just posted a NPD for an SA Ventris Reverb last week...

Now, I have obtained the Source Audio (same form factor) Nemesis Delay... Both are actually replacements which had to be sold survive (with just about every piece of gear, guitar, stomper, amp, mic, speaker). To me, this is the Top of the Rock for a team of reverb and delay pedals. I hope so, dishing out $760.00 for 2 pedals is probably insane to most.. (Ventris Reverb, $430, Nemesis Delay, $330).

There are and is a lot of competition and competitors out there for the multi-delay and multi-reverb pedal types. You may own what you love, and you have (maybe) reasons you spent any cash at all on anything. MOOER now makes multi-effect type pedals, and Strymon, Line 6 and others are at the top of the category.

The "big dog" for many folks right now seems to be the Line 6 Helix (full board, plus several smaller and at different price point options of the same contraption and technology). Sweetwater has them for $1,699.99,

Strymon has their "trifecta" of Timeline/delay ($449.00), Big Sky/reverb ($479.00), and Mobius/modulation ($449.00). Both Line 6 and Strymon have amazing sounds packed inside. I'll give them all of that, they've spent the time to make the goods, and I won't take anything away from that, even though both brands are far outside of my choices for gear. I have really some simple reasons why "not" Strymon or Line 6... It's just "me"...

The #1 main reason being...

For one, as a human being I HATE reading. Both Strymon and Line 6 (and BOSS, DD-500, RV-500, MD-500) have these thick (I call them) "War and Peace (novel) sized" manuals. You have to learn the language of what does what to what before you can even tool down the road with a couple decent sounds. To me, and for my use, that is just too much reading.

I'm an old-school single-pedal guy. I still have my 1979 ProCo Rat Distortion... that I bought brand new in 1979... one switch and three intuitive knobs... now they tell me it's "vintage" and worth a bah-jillion dollars, and one of the best distortion pedals ever made, which many to follow have cloned again and again. But the Rat was the first (well, it was the first Rat, anyways). She's seen some warfare, but still jams hard when you click him on... (recent picture, note surface rust and big dent in top, LOL)
View attachment 1093179

I've been playing guitar since 1975 and I've seen a lot of things come and go. Around the same year (1979-ish) I also had an ARP Avatar guitar synthesizer. Years later I learned that ARP only ever sold 300 units of Avatars to the public, and because of spending million on the Avatar's research and development, ARP went out of business. The Avatar was the self same analog synth as the ARP Odyssey, except with a hex pickup that fired the synth rather than a piano type keyboard. If you want to hear the ARP Avatar on a recording, check out Led Zep, In Through the Out Door album. Jimmy Page had one...

I also leap frogged over every single rack mount all-in-one preamp/effects doo-dad that dropped out of NAMM in the 1980s. Rack mount was about the last I saw of MXR until they surfaced later. A whole long list of manufacturers got their manual writers employed in those days describing what a "parameter" was... and on page 12,752,322, you had a list of internal "parameters" (whatever the Hell "parameters" were... they lost me at "parameter"... LOL)

OK, so I like single pedals, so why Source Audio, then?

Their Ventris reverb and Nemesis delays have incredible digital effects inside. If you look at the front panel of knobs and windows on some gear, it is like trying to read Chinese (and you just made it passed Dick and Jane) (Yes, the "Rub, Spot, run!" Dicks and Janes...). But the front panel of the Ventris and Nemesis are intuitive. They don't have any Chinese language knobs named in some new language you can only learn by reading their version of War and Peace.

It might be something to point out... neither of these Source Audio pedals come with any kind of a paper manual. You can download a manual from their website in PDF, but the point I'm making is that 1) they sound every bit as good or better than the Strymon or Line 6 effects... but you take the SA pedals out of the box, and you are making great sounds and able to change them in seconds, not mponths after reading a manual...

What about depth?

OK, so you want to tap into a Source Audio One Series pedal on your PC or MAC?... They offer a free download of their Neuro Desktop Editor (for PC or MAC, your choice). The GUI interface for the SA devices in the editor are also very easy to understand. They all pretty much have a virtual knob you can grab and turn with your mouse, and/or drop down menu you click and choose from. You don't need to be a math wiz to tell their pedals what to do. And each SA One Series pedal has a distinct large list of algorithms inside (accessed by the editor software)... For example...

Using the editor, you can access these effect type with the Nemesis Delay:
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The GUI (graphic user interface) window for the Nemesis is straight forward if you've ever used any kind of DAW plugin...
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(there is actually more to the GUI view that I couldn't catch in one screen print)
i'm just wondering why you just didn't buy the SA Collider. wouldn't that have given you "the best of both worlds"? I'm also a big fan of Source Audio, I bought my first SA pedal last week, a Spectrum Intelligent Filter. still learning how to use it, but the first three stock settings are so good that i haven't gone past them so far. But I'm sure I will, there are close to 500 community settings for this pedal and I will soon try a bunch of them out. .
 
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