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"Now slide up the neck...No! UP the neck!"

Discussion in 'Bad Dog Cafe' started by AM866, Sep 20, 2011.

  1. AM866

    AM866 Tele-Meister

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    Not sure if I'm alone in this but if someone tells me to move up the fretboard, I'll move to where the notes are higher. If I'm on the 5th fret and you say "Now move up one", I go to 6. "Move down" - I go to 4.

    Consistently, however, if I tell someone to move up the neck, they go toward the headstock.

    Higher fret means higher pitch means up the neck, right?

    Am I wrong in this?
     
  2. KokoTele

    KokoTele Doctor of Teleocity Vendor Member

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    Traditionally, yes. However, every once in a while you run into someone who learned things on the internet and get it backwards ;-)
     
  3. Mjark

    Mjark Doctor of Teleocity Silver Supporter

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    I view a higher pitch as up but alas not everyone does.
     
  4. BigDaddyLH

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    One thing I avoid is the phrase "higher strings" (or "top" or "bottom" string) -- like "now move these chords to higher strings". Higher in pitch or vertically on the neck. I use treble and bass instead.
     
  5. Bolide

    Bolide Friend of Leo's

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    Does anybody else hear Lee Embry saying
    "Your other up!"
     
  6. Slow Reflexes

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    I liken it to gear ratios. You see articles all the time saying "lower gears (numerically higher)"... maybe there needs to be a parenthetical on your neck commentary, too?
     
  7. Joe-Bob

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    That's how I use it. I think it's more consistent.
     
  8. elicross

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    I've never seen "up the neck" used or interpreted as anything other than toward the bridge and higher notes.
     
  9. Freejack

    Freejack Friend of Leo's

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    And those of us who are new to this, think of up as higher physically, not pitch. So when my instructor says to play higher on the neck (a physical device), I'm thinking go up. I'm getting the hang of it, but it's still a habit.

    Carl
     
  10. logan2z

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    I make a similar mistake with my guitar teacher all the time. When he refers to 'bottom strings' I think that means in terms of frequency, but he's referring to the position of the strings relative to the viewpoint of the player i.e. The strings farther from you when looking down at the fret board are 'below' those nearer to you when looking down at the fretboard. So the high E is the bottom string and the low E is the top string. My brain thinks in terms of frequency, which would make the high E the top string and the low E the bottom string :D
     
  11. kelnet

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    Hmm, if Bill moves his left hand to the first fret, his hand is indeed moving upwards, and therefore up the neck. However, Bill was always kind of odd.

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    :eek: You're not making a mistake. Your need a new teacher.
     
  13. Mike Bruce

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    Up and down refer to pitch. Altitude has nothing at all to do with communicating music concepts. It's a reference all my students learn very early, at my insistence.
     
  14. Joe-Bob

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    Suppose you were able to look down at the strings and take that picture and print it.....when you held it up in front of you, the lowest strings would indeed be at the bottom of the photo.
     
  15. TeleTim911

    TeleTim911 Friend of Leo's

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    Someone says "up the neck" to me, it means "higher notes" therefore I go towards the body. I think "UP" is the keyword. If you climb UP a ladder, are you going higher? If you go UP an elevator are you going higher?

    I'm just glad pilots all over the world know the difference! ;)
     
  16. kelnet

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    What would "up the neck" mean to a cellist?
     
  17. Guran

    Guran Friend of Leo's Silver Supporter

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    Yes.

    Why is tab written the way it is, with the highest... Ooops, lightest string on top? Because that's how we see it from players position.

    And up the neck is towards the body of the guitar. For most people this would be much more of a horizontal move than a vertical one, in terms of direction compared to the room.

    If we use the term up in relation to the floor, it would mean opposite directions for Bill Wyman and Johnny Cash! :lol:
     
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    NMR spectra. Are the same, going from 1 to 4 ppm , for example, is downfield not upfield
     
  19. flyingbanana

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    Ok...so now that we fixed that, what's next? :D
     
  20. elicross

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    This.
     
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