Now I want a tube amp..

Discussion in 'Amp Central Station' started by axlej11, Jun 7, 2016.

  1. Nickfl

    Nickfl Tele-Afflicted

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    Just got one of these off craigslist last week for $125 and it was money well spent. Run through the 2x12 I recently built for my Peavey Windsor, it gets loud enough to shake the house, but sounds good at a reasonable volume too.
     
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    I would have to say get yourself a small bass cab and a 1x12 guitar cab, and power them with a head of your choice as mentioned, or track yourself down an X100B combo, a 5150, 6505, or an old Ampeg metal amp from the 90's. Forget what those are called.

    Solid state holds down the bass for sure, but a V4B and a metal pedal could go a long way for a tube amp.
     
  3. axlej11

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    Thanks guys. I think Im leaning more towards a toss up between the Windsor and Jet City. The Jet City seems to have the sound Im looking for from videos I've watched. Same goes for the Windsor. Im gonna head to musicgoround this weekend and see what theyve got. They do have a windsor in stock. Im not sure if they allow testing. The Jet City sounds really nice as well so I really want to try one out.
     
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    I played a Hughes & Kettner Tubemeister 5 watt head for a while. Sounds to me like you (OPr) might like it a lot. I liked it for what it did, but sold it for what it didn't. It had a great glassy clean tone and a nice metally-warm overdrive tone, but I realized that I prefer to live in the crunch/breakup zone in between most of the time. I sold the head in as-new condition with upgraded tubes for $230, which would leave you enough for something like a Panama Guitars 1x12 cabinet, or a used cabinet of some kind to plug into.

    I sometimes wish I had it back, even though i'm very happy with my current rig.
     
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    Thanks for the suggestion, Ill give it a look!
     
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    Wait wait wait-- how is this being done? I think this is what I need. Where do you split the signal, is it serial or parallel?
     
  7. muchxs

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    Start with an ABY switch or an amp switcher on the front end. A low buck Morley will do the job as long as you're not ground looped while a Lynch or a Radial amp switcher works a little better. Ultimately I'm saving my pennies for a Radial JD-7 so I can run seven amps at once.

    I suppose two JD-7s will feed a dozen or so amps...

    There are plenty of low buck high powered bass amps available. A used Fender Rumble Bass Amp will do the job in a compact setup. I like the compact Gallien Krueger MB200 head. It costs around $300 new or around $200 used. Or go for the Gallien Krueger MB500 if you have the cash. The advantage of either unit is you have a spare bass amp available if you need one. The further advantage is either amp can be combined with a multi- FX pedal and used as a backup to your main amp.

    The 2x EVM15Ls in a Marshall 1960B are a simple setup. It doesn't need to be fancy to reproduce a low "B" at 62hz. Just use speakers with bass extension like the EVMs and feed them plenty of power.

    See what we're doing? We creating a Poor Man's Biamp setup like the main P.A.. The old school power distribution used to be twice as much power to the bottom end as to the midrange drivers. These days we send four times as much to the subwoofers. It depends on how much we want to sound like a tuner Honda with a big stereo...

    A couple hundred watts to the bottom end and 50 watts for everything else will do it.


    It's not an original idea. Marshall designed the Mode 4 for detuned guitars. It's designed to act like a classic JCM800 or Slash's Silver Jubilee amps with the addition of 350 solid state watts to push the bass with detuned guitars. They promote the "two amps in one" concept over and over in their literature.
     
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  8. axlej11

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    So I found another amp.. the Bugera G5 Infinium, whats your thoughts on this one guys? It has some great tones in my opinion from watching videos demoing the amp Im just concerned on reliability although Ive heard Bugera to be pretty good on that end.
     
  9. muchxs

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    Friends don't let friends buy Bugera.

    An old Peavey will still be makin' music long after a Bugera is in the landfill.
     
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    I dunno if Bugera is "reliable" so much as "more reliable than it used to be". I've heard horror stories from amp techs that got tired of dealing with them (I was actually steered away from them at a GC!), but supposedly the recent ones are better. I dunno that I would get one when there are other options in that price range, like the Marshall 5W...
     
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    I'll second the 5150/6505 recommendation for what you describe. I have one of the little lunchbox 5150's and it is a great little amp, but has no cleans. The 50/100 watt versions however do, and go for less money too. I guess big loud amps are out of style right now.
    For modern gainy sounds, they are really good. You'll need a cab with some Celestion's in it to complete the package. WGS Veteran 30 is a great speaker modeled after the Celestion Vintage 30 and is cheaper.
    Fender type amps are great for cleans, and are great for overdrive, but for what you describe are not the amp in my opinion.
     
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    Bear in mind the OP will be playing baritone. Many if not most "guitar" speakers are rolling off the bottom end starting at around 100hz. It would be nice to reproduce a low "B" at approximately 62 hz if not a low "E" down at 40hz.
     
  13. axlej11

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    I guess I'll forget the bugera then. Im really liking what I hear from the windsor, jet city, and hughes and kettner. I cant seem to find the hughes and kettner 5 watt head. Only the combo. And the head when I do find it is listed waaayyy over priced.
     
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    Well I got a deal. I was at the local music store to get cleaner for my fretboard since I was restringing today. I saw an old peavey bandit 112 sheffield 100 watt transtube sitting there. I asked how much they wanted for it and they told me $200. I impulse bought it, brought it home, dialed in my tone, I am pleased. I have it going through the clean channel with my distortion and it has really crisp mids and great lows. I had to readjust my pedal and that was a pain in the behind because its a cheap behringer pedal. I am pleased with the sound I achieved though. I might pick up a new distortion pedal Im unsure of what I want yet. I have some spending cash for my strat and a 7 string. I hope I didnt get ripped on this deal though.
     
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    Congrats. :)

    After the Orange Crush Pro range, the Peavey Bandit (almost any version) is my favourite SS amp.

    Don't sweat the lack of tubes. SS amps aren't inferior to tubes (I have both); they're just a bit different. Both have pros and cons.

    Have fun.
     
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    Thanks! Yeah I like it a lot, Im not worried about the lack of tubes I was just hoping I didnt overpay. Apparently this amp goes for around 5-600 for the newer versions. I love the way it sounds. Just gotta get a mic for recording.
     
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