Notre Dame Burning...

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  1. maxvintage

    maxvintage Friend of Leo's

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    It's important to remember that the building itself was never entirely static. It took hundreds of years to build. The famous flying buttresses were added during construction. It was modified over time. It was attacked in political and religious upheavals. There was a major restoration in the 19th century. The spire that collapsed was added in the 19th century. Only one of the rose windows, as I understand it, is "original." That's to be expected in a building that's "alive," that's in daily use rather than a static monument.

    Because of the restoration, a lot of statues, artifacts and decorative elements had been removed before the fire.

    This seems like a chance to combine ancient skills and modern skills and rebuild it for another 500 years. It's sad to think of the wooden timbers in the roof, possibly themselves a 1000 years old, all gone. But the framework is intact.

    The Cathedral is a symbol of the idea that people can be more than just animals grubbing in the mud for a narrow living. It's a symbol of aspiration and accomplishment and inventive genius.
     
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    The south rosace has apparently survived.

    Some "centennial" windows have been destroyed, which hopefully means none or little of the old medieval stuff.

    More info for those who read French.

    Edit: all three of them are now reported to have survived.

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    Just read the organ survived
    And now I just read it’s seriously damaged.
    The dust need to settle
     
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    The organ did not burn, but it was initially unclear if it had suffered from water damage or other degradations.

    Below I quote from the link above. The French minister of culture said that the orgen appeared to have been considerably touched, but that it was too early to conclude about its condition.


    Le grand orgue : Ce mardi matin sur France Inter, le ministre de la Culture a expliqué que le grand orgue de la cathédrale, muni de cinq claviers et de quelque 8 000 tuyaux, a "l'air d'avoir été assez atteint", tout en expliquant qu'il était trop tôt pour faire un diagnostic de son état complet.
     
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    Ray Davies once wrote a love song called "Nothing Last's Forever."

    It makes me think that wonderful, beautiful, historical building's made of stone and mortar don't, either.

    But, since they were refurbishing, maybe it's not as bad as it looked... and, they'll just have to"refurbish" a lot more.

    I hope so.
     
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    A tremendous loss to the world in general.
     
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    Peace, brothers !
     
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    Terrible news.
     
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    Terrible. It's a world heritage site.
    Sadly, no matter how much re-building- you can't replace all those windows and Gargoyles worn through time.
    I grew up watching Quasimodo " Oh The Bells, The Bells":(
     
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    I've read all three "rose" windows are intact, and also that the gargoyles were in storage due to the renovations
     
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    The bells have survived, as have the most important ancient windows, apparently.
     
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    Guy working a blowtorch isn't going to have a billion euro of cover on his insurance

    Nations tend to self insure, because they can sort risk cheaper than the market
     
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    Rebuilding a cathedral is not a new thing. Reims Cathedral was seriously damaged in World War One, and was reopened in 1938.

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    Reims was the cathedral used for the crowning of French kings right up until the 18th century. The baptism of Clovis took place in Reims. It has been just as important to Frenc history as Notre Dame.
     
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