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Discussion in 'Bad Dog Cafe' started by micpoc, Apr 15, 2019.
I couldn't have said it better than that. I feel the same way.
The Rose Window.
Your research kinda sucks.
Some things connect us through the centuries. My heart goes out.
I'm personally saddened because I'd hoped to see it in the near future, but overall it's simply a piece of truly wondrous architecture and important human history. My heart is with those whom it is a source of reverence and pride.
This is that kind of newsthat makes most everything else seem insignificant.
I'm not Catholic or even very religious but I too feel a great loss today, as JL_LI said.
Makes guitar, amp, music talk seem trivial.
(And yet here getting my news on a guitar form).
Rose windows. There are/were three.
I live about 100km from Paris, my wife and kids are French. Can't count the times I've passed Notre Dame on my way home each week, or entered it. I am just devastated
So so sad. 800 years of history gone. I so hope the framework can be saved and it can be rebuilt, but some things you just can't replace.
So sorry for this, not for the building, for the art that was inside of it...
The building itself was art. It was more than a building, it represented the hopes, humanity and endeavor of 1000's of people, 1 thousand years ago. It was a symbol of the evolution and ingenuity of man, it mixed art and engineering - and wasn't surpassed for many many hundreds of years.
I am sorry for the art and the building. We are hugely diminished.
My heart goes out to all of you
Well said.... and I'm sure most of us that have visited Paris are feeling that way, I know I am.
For those that live there... those feelings can be multiplied by infinity!
Compared to human life, yes.... but it's so much more than just a building.
Let's put this is perspective for the people living in the Western Hemisphere... that building was 600 years old before George Washington became president ...
It is true that it got a major overhaul a couple hundred years back, and of course regular ongoing maintenance. But lots of it still goes back centuries. It will be difficult to rebuild to what it was, but if the structure holds, I am sure they will do whatever it takes.
I just bought a coffee table book on Paris last week. Will spend some more quality time with it tonight.
I’ve been in Notre Dame a few times, climbed to the top once, gone under the courtyard where remains of the Roman occupation can be seen. And it truly is an awe inspiring work of architecture. It holds over 6000 people. The columns are over 100 feet tall before they begin to arch. The stained glass, telling stories for a then mostly illiterate congregation, some of which survived perhaps until today. I hope not all of that is lost.
As mentioned above construction began in 1163 but was not completed for another couple centuries. In the 1830s Violet-le-Duc was commissioned to restore the cathedral and was finished in 1846.
Apparently it was also the site of Druidic sacrifices and pagan worship.
This all from Paris the Secret History by Andrew Hussey.
I’m looking at a map of the cathedral. The back end with the flying buttresses is the oldest part dating to about 1160-1170. From the pictures this seemed to be where the heaviest fire was.
If the fire made it to the north rose window that would be disastrous. It is/was in largely original condition from @1250.
Paris is my favourite city in the world. This is terrible
I loved Paris when I traveled and stayed there. My sympathies to all.
Having been there and seen it in all its glory - this was truly devastating news to wake up to this morning!
My most heartfelt sympathies and thoughts are with all those who have ever appreciated it.
I met a traveller from an antique land,
Who said—“Two vast and trunkless legs of stone
Stand in the desert. . . . Near them, on the sand,
Half sunk a shattered visage lies, whose frown,
And wrinkled lip, and sneer of cold command,
Tell that its sculptor well those passions read
Which yet survive, stamped on these lifeless things,
The hand that mocked them, and the heart that fed;
And on the pedestal, these words appear:
My name is Ozymandias
Look on my Works, ye Mighty, and despair!
Nothing beside remains. Round the decay
Of that colossal Wreck, boundless and bare
The lone and level sands stretch far away.”
I've always wanted to see Notre Dame, along with St. Denis and Canterbury Cathedral. I took some courses on Medieval History when doing my degree, and I loved learning about the cathedral-building period.
My heart goes out to the French people. Such a loss, not only for France but for the world.
Two thumbs up: its a beautiful quote. And anybody whose avatar is a picture of James Joyce is all right in my book)
Another from happier times (I had a show at a club in a boat on the seine last summer; after soundcheck I went for a walk and just, on a whim - even though I've seen it numerous times since I was a kid - I snapped this shot.)
I think some people who are saying it is just a building need to translate it into their own nation
The Acropolis is just a building on this basis, as are the Pyramids, Stonehenge, Westminster Abbey, the Palace of Westminster, etc etc
Sometimes things have been sacred to some people for so long they are not just bricks - especially when it is a place of worship to them, or the focus of their national identity, or it has such history
When Notre Dame was started, people will have been alive from the 1066 Norman invasion of Britain. If someone had told them that in 300 years someone would sail and find America, it would have seemed as impossibly distant as someone telling us what will happen in 2319AD. I lived closer in time to Isaac Newton and the Great Fire of London than they did, even though those things are 300 years ago
Leonardo Da Vinci and Henry VIII would have thought Notre Dame old. It's the place France's kings (and Emperor) were crowned, and it is based on the island which is the very reason Paris is where it is
Some people would be going ape if there were jokes about the Whitehouse burning down, but that isn't an 800 year old place of worship
Remember a little respect (coming from a person who has little)
C'est une perte d'art horrible et une preuve des bonnes choses chez l'homme. Ce sont les choses qui me rendent triste.