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Norway Spruce

Discussion in 'Tele Home Depot' started by otterhound, Oct 29, 2020.

  1. otterhound

    otterhound Poster Extraordinaire

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    Yes , simple has it's appeal .
    Let me know when you need more Sycamore , I may have a good lead .
     
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    You bet :D
     
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    Started cutting and slicing this afternoon . Will post some pics tomorrow as the process proceeds . One not this far . There appears to be very little , almost none , runout as I have begun splitting . Knots from branches do create some deviation , but overall , this grain is almost no twist .
     
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    OK , I'm a day or two off . All sections are split .
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    They will meet the bandsaw next . Resize the length of the wedges and cut billets . Followed by sealing the fresh cut endgrain . Patience follows .
     
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    Engraver-60 Friend of Leo's

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    Q's: Are the rather jogged edges from chain sawing, and the others from actual splitting, as in wedge and sledge hammer? Will these end up as tops for some PA acoustic guitar manufacturer?
     
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    The jagged edges , as you call them , are where this wood was split . I said it has little runout , not none . Softwoods rarely split cleanly .
    These are not intended for acoustic tops . I am considering a few wedges in the mandolin/violin/fiddle size . I want to dry some of this and check stiffness first . Although some luthiers do not fear low growth ring counts , guitars with low growth ring counts can be problematic to sell purely because of perceptions There are plenty of great sounding guitars out there with considerably less than 20 rings per inch . Point being that green/wet wood is not a good assessment . It needs to dry some first . I was low , so I bought some Anchorseal today . Bandsaw work starts tomorrow .
     
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    Today's work included endgrain sealing , band sawing and bark stripping . Tomorrow , I will flip the smaller wedges and seal the other end as well as finishing cutting and sealing the remainder on one end . I am finding some pitch pockets .
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    Don't toss the pitch pockets stuff. I would love to build a uke with some of the pieces with character.
     
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    Bark stripped and ready for the bandsaw .
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    Basic waste .
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    With more to come .
     
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    7301F3FF-CDA6-464B-8972-B2DD3FA32ABB.jpeg Completed the initial cutting . Both ends are sealed on the pieces cut yesterday and first ends sealed on those done today .
    More scrap .
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    Some walnut blocks .
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    Oh my Lord my heart fluttered seeing that walnut. Walnut for a neck, sycamore for a body? I'd die a happy man :)
     
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    What about the fretboard ? Black Locust or Mulberry ? All quartersawn .
    What pickups will you be using ? Which bridge ?
    Did you say walnut ?
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    Sycamore ?
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    Frederich, as he was known, who ran the company during their golden era, said that he preferred spruce with 13 lines per inch.
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    Oh man, your shop must have smelt wonderful after cleaning those billets up!
     
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    I looked up the differences between Norway, Sitka, Red and Engelman Spruce regarding mechanical properties. What I am wondering, what is the tonal difference between Norway and Sitka Spruce?
     
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    I sure smelled like spruce after cutting it . Right now , my entire shop smells like Christmas .
    It was the same with the walnut .
    I need to work some cherry again .
     
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    Black locust I've worked with, mulberry never. Whichever is lighter in color, I like natural color contrast. Pickups would be GFS, I'm leaning to mini humbuckers, maybe the Retrotron variant. I like the full size in my Tele 12 string. My preference is low Z pickups giving crystal clears and pleasing low level distortion, nothing hot.
    My bridge would likely be a Wilkinson' ABR-1 type but maybe a wraparound. I'm aiming at a Epiphone or DCT type body, fairly large but thin. Probably Spertzel tuners, on tuners I don't do economy as in most things. That's about my brainstorm for now, although an acoustic Dewdrop Cittern I would love lol

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    They both end up about the same although locust tends to begin a bit green and mulberry a bit yellow . A honey tan color . I have used both and like both . Maple is so common and the exotics don't grow here . I don't have this dark colored fretboard bias in me . Sure , they are easier to cover inlay mistakes with , but they simply aren't needed and I'm not damaging rainforests or foreign places . Besides , we have perfectly good woods right here . Certainly Osage Orange should fit the need also .
    If you look at the Gibson website , you will see that they are using walnut for fretboards .
    I do like your idea of a Dewdrop Cittern . Really like it .
     
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    To clarify I would want a lighter color than walnut unless I lost my mind over making my first one piece neck. I regularly use walnut for fretboard and have for 30 years when all the moaning was how the frets wouldn't hold %[email protected]$$& :mad:. I'm waiting for the right time to suggest a Cittern Dewdrop to Rich Rice, he's the Dewdrop mac daddy. Have to be careful as I haven't taken delivery of mine yet :lol:

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