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  1. CleanBoostCasey

    CleanBoostCasey TDPRI Member

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    I have a 2014 Squier Standard Tele I got from a friend (free). Has been sitting in a gig bag in his basement most of its life. Unplayed. I took all the electronics out. Got a new pickguard from a Baja Tele and USA Fender switch and pots.

    I already have my MIM with hot rails in it so I want to keep this one more Tele like, but I want noiseless pickups. I see the Fender options and am looking for used. Not trying to sink a lot of money into a free guitar.

    Thoughts?

    C
     
  2. JD0x0

    JD0x0 Poster Extraordinaire

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    Wilde pickups are very reasonably priced and arguably one of the best 'noiseless single coils' out there.
    http://wildepickups.com/Wilde_Bill_s_NF_Singles.html



    Bill actually designed Fender's 'noiseless' pickups, but apparently was unhappy with their build/wind quality during mass production.
     
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    The new series 4 Fender Noiseless sound good to me.
    Kinmans too!
     
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    lammie200 Friend of Leo's

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  5. CleanBoostCasey

    CleanBoostCasey TDPRI Member

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    Those are all nice pickups, but I’m not trying to spend that much. I appreciate the feedback though. I’m looking at some used Fender noiseless.
     
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    If you want Fender Noiseless pickups, search Reverb and eBay. When I was researching noiseless Tele pickups a few months ago, I found that a used set (if you could find them) didn’t save much over a set of new Wilde pickups. I’m very happy with the Wilde set I installed.
     
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    Golem Tele-Holic Silver Supporter

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    He designed the SCNs and wasn’t happy with the end result as produced by Fender.
     
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    SD Vintage Lead Stack are dead quiet, not very popular on the forums. Might be able to find some used. I love em.

    The Dimarzio Areas are much more revered, worth looking into as well.
     
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  10. CleanBoostCasey

    CleanBoostCasey TDPRI Member

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    That’s an interesting article. Thanks. I do have an offer in on some Fender noiseless on Reverb. Waiting to hear back.

    I did consider the GFS Kwik Plug option, but since I just bought new pots and a switch I want to use them.

    I did have a SD Vintage Lead Stack in my MIM before getting the hot rails. I didn’t like it.

    C
     
  11. Derek Kiernan

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    Shielding doesn’t get rid of hum, and aluminum gets rid of dimmer-type noise, which copper can’t do.
     
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    Digital Larry Tele-Afflicted Gold Supporter

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    Really! I wonder why that is.
     
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    Jim622 Friend of Leo's Silver Supporter

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    I have a Chopper-T in the back and an Area in the front on a MIM 94 Standard. Still got the twang, but that Chopper can heat it up.
     
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    hopdybob Tele-Afflicted

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    all explained here

    http://billlawrence.com/Pages/All_About_Tone.htm/TeleLovers.htm

    http://billlawrence.com/Pages/Pickupology/External Interference.htm

    its a choice, that has to do with money, what do you want to spend.
    shielding helps, but not completely.
    the TS lives in the US, so he can get them cheap, whereby people in Europe will have to pay a fair amount off shipment cost.
    say, i would want a l298sl at $ 68, i have a shipment of $ 21,50 where in the US its only $ 8,75
     
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    rigatele Tele-Afflicted

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    I call BS. This is a case where Lawrence gets it completely wrong. Copper and aluminum are so close in conductivity that it can't be true (copper is actually twice as good). He seems to be conflating eddy currents with EMI, which doesn't make much sense. Eddy currents increase with frequency, and mains 50/60Hz is far too low to have much effect in a baseplate.

    He references Belden double shielded cable, but the purpose of the foil in that is to cover the holes in the copper braid.

    From Belden - "Foil shields provide 100% cable coverage, necessary
    for electrostatic shield protection.
    [...]
    Combination shields consist of more
    than one layer of shielding. They provide
    maximum shield efficiency across the
    frequency spectrum. The combination
    foil/braid shield combines the advantages
    of 100% foil coverage, plus the strength
    and low DC resistance of the braid."
     
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    well, i will not debate with you about this because i have no technical know how about this subject.
    but if a brass cover will have a different influence than a nickel silver, i will not be surprised that alu and copper will have to.
    in fact, Bill mentions this:

    An inch thick copper or brass shield cannot reduce the buzz caused by light dimmers but .003 thick aluminum foil can

    i believe that he did not suck it out of his thumb but somehow tested this like his other discovery's he shared with us.
    he maybe will not have a PHD, ore how you call that, but all about pickups was his life to know why things do the things they do.
    maybe not from a scientific view but with trial and error
     
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    Another satisfied DiMarzio Area T user here. Area T neck and Area Hot T in the bridge.
     
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    So you're debating aluminum's effectiveness as a shielding material? I'm assuming you've done tests if you're going to say he's wrong.
     
  19. Digital Larry

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    The science around metals and magnetic materials is not new or terribly controversial. It's been quite awhile since I was taking physics at university so I don't remember it all. Now we all know that audio and guitar technical debates can easily be inflated with hot air. Bill Lawrence has something to sell you, while I do not (yet). I don't find his explanations satisfying. That's all.
     
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